REFLECTOR: DIY EFIS
Mark Magee
edjonesbrady at gmail.com
Wed Jul 24 23:36:10 CDT 2013
Thanks to all who responded. I believe my idea for the iPad PFD EFIS is viable, yet I will allow a few others to do it first before committing to permanent panel mounts.
I noticed that levil sells windows based tablets suitable for panel mount, yet the software writers seem to be focusing on iPad for the EFIS apps.
Mark
Sent from my iPad
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On Jul 24, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Grover McNair <grover at mcnairperformance.com> wrote:
> Mine failed sitting on the passenger seat coming back from Savannah two weeks ago. I put it next to the fresh air vent. It cooled down and came back.
> Grover McNair
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 24, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Lawrence Epstein <ljepstein at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had mine fail on the seat next to me, last summer (not in the sun)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I believe any hot/cold and screen brightness issues could be addressed cost effectively with after market products for the iPad market.
>>> The tech at Levil said the iPad overheating shutdown issues have been occurring on glare shield mounts, and that a customer of Levils is installing THREE iPads (2 full size and a mini) as a PFD currently under the theory that they will live comfortably in their operating temp range mounted in the panel mount.
>>>
>>> Mark B. Magee
>>> N34XL
>>> Sent from IPhone 4S
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>>>
>>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:29 PM, "Richard J. Gentil" <richard at naples-air-center.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have been looking for a while at the AHRS-G micro, Attitude and Heading Reference System:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.aviation.levil.com/AHRS_micro_DataSheet.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking we could build a cost effective system around this hardware. Get the proper sunlight visible LCD screens and design a PFD.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
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>>>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Reiff Lorenz <Reiff at lorenz.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would consider an off-the-shelf setup like that at some point in the future. There are a number of conditions to be met, though. Not all of them are available today.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Pitot-static data fed to the tablet, not just GPS altitude and ground speed. Something like this would work:
>>>>> http://kitplanes2.com/blog/2013/07/levil-technologys-new-ilevilaw-adahrs/
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Tablets in the panel are dedicated to that purpose. I don't want my flight instruments to double as my email client, traveling web browser, and portable game system.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Software that is specifically designed to be a primary EFIS. This is the biggest hurdle. Most products that I've seen are flight-planning apps or in-flight charts that have added an EFIS screen. I can foresee these same products deleting this "add-on feature" for liability reasons when they discover pilots have started using them for critical flight information. Also, until the programmers of these systems are committed to providing a product that is reliable enough for IMC, I don't have the confidence that every revision of their software will be tested to an acceptable level of assurance.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. High level of integration. I'm willing to pay a lot more than the cost of an iPad for a device that will integrate with my approach GPS, radios, autopilot, Vertical Power system, and engine monitor.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Until #3 and #4 are solved, I plan on having a dedicated EFIS and using a tablet for backup navigation and future EFIS experimentation. There's one EFIS manufacturer (GRT?) that allows a tablet to serve as a second screen for their product. This seems like the best of both worlds . . . dedicated equipment with off-the-shelf expansion options.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Reiff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Mark Magee
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:58 AM
>>>>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>>>>> Cc: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>>>>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: DIY EFIS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And panel mount WAAS GPS, as in 430W or better with approaches.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark B. Magee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As a PFD system? Or a backup?
>>>>>
>>>>> And as to "along with a WAAS enabled GPS", do you mean like a panel mount aviation GPS? Like a 400W?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone considering permanently, or semi-permanently mounting two full sized iPads and adding an app like WingxPro7
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wingx-pro7-aviation-moving/id378172082?mt=8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Or simlars:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.aviation.levil.com/Software.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and a Levil AHRS and compatible ADSB receiver for traffic and weather
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.aviation.levil.com/AHRS_mini.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> along with a WAAS enabled GPS for a complete glass panel, short of mini-backup steam gauges?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would think this would run the flight deck nicely for under $4,000 all in. Much less if you picked up used iPads.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was preparing to go GRT at 5 times that price, but I wonder if I wouldn't be just as safe with this setup. Maintenance on this flight deck would be at Best Buy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark B. Magee
>>>>>
>>>>> N34XL
>>>>>
>>>>> Brady TX
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
>>>>> Specialization is for insects.
>>>>> - Lazarus Long, as written by Robert A. Heinlein.
>>>>>
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