REFLECTOR: Aileron Fences

Richard J. Gentil richard at naples-air-center.com
Thu Apr 4 12:37:28 CDT 2013


Ron,

I would have liked a nice clean surface on my wing but after flying with the VG's and Vortilons, I would not fly without them. They do make a difference. Their benefit greatly outweigh their lack of aesthetics. 

Richard

Sent from my iPhone 5

On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Ron N VelocityXLFG <velocityxl at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> I am not comparing it to any thing specific I just would like more aileron authority . 
> The velocity does need more rudder control in the patten I understand I probable have 150
> plus landings in my velocity  . I just was looking to see if there is any advantage to fences. Right now I am 
> not a fan of VG's just because i like the top of the wing with out a bunch of fins to catch on.
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> On 4/4/2013 11:47 AM, steve korney wrote:
>> Ron...
>> 
>> What are you comparing more aileron control to....? Velocities don't have a lot of aileron control at low speed.....
>> 
>> Steve 
>> 
>> > Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:38:06 -0500
>> > From: velocityxl at fastmail.fm
>> > To: reflector at tvbf.org
>> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Aileron Fences
>> > 
>> > Huge in lowering landing speeds or low speed control. I am ok with my 
>> > landing speed. I just would like more
>> > aileron authority.
>> > 
>> > Ron
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On 4/4/2013 11:25 AM, Scott Derrick wrote:
>> > > I agree, VG's make a huge difference in low speed aileron control, and 
>> > > better climb rate.
>> > >
>> > > Scott
>> > >
>> > > -------- Original Message --------
>> > > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Aileron Fences
>> > > From: Richard J. Gentil <richard at naples-air-center.com>
>> > > To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> > > Date: 04/04/2013 09:36 AM
>> > >
>> > >> Ron,
>> > >>
>> > >> The VG's will approve your low speed performance.
>> > >>
>> > >> Richard
>> > >>
>> > >> Sent from my iPhone 5
>> > >>
>> > >> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Ron N VelocityXLFG 
>> > >> <velocityxl at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> No VG on my wings . Do have VG on my Nacas but that's another story.
>> > >>> On 4/4/2013 9:52 AM, Richard J. Gentil wrote:
>> > >>>> Ron,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Just to check, you also have the VG's on the main wing and canard 
>> > >>>> right?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Richard
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com> 
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Ron,
>> > >>>>> Do you have vortilons installed? If so, then you fly the bird on 
>> > >>>>> the rudders as a taildragger in the pattern. If not, make it so. 
>> > >>>>> Stall fences work but look funky IMHO.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Mark B. Magee
>> > >>>>> Sent from IPhone 4S
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Ron N VelocityXLFG 
>> > >>>>> <velocityxl at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> I was thinking of trying aileron fences to help the sluggish 
>> > >>>>>> characteristics of my plane when
>> > >>>>>> it is low and slow. If memories serves me correctly aileron 
>> > >>>>>> fences do just that with no           speed
>> > >>>>>> penalty correct? What should I expect if I do install fences ? 
>> > >>>>>> Is there a size and shape that has
>> > >>>>>> worked out best?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Almost done with phase 1. Been a long 36 hours so far but enjoyed 
>> > >>>>>> every moment.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Ron
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