REFLECTOR: Need some advice/measurements

Tue Nov 20 12:53:28 CST 2012

My plan is to make a cradle for the plane that I can twist about the
longitudinal axis. I will then have to raise the whole thing high enough to
get the tilt I need but that's easy.

Mobile device, please excuse brevity and typos.

On Nov 20, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Scott Baker <scottb33333 at gmail.com> wrote:

Agree that an engine hoist is a good idea, however the center spar is not
the center of mass - and lifting/controlling the nose section of the
aircraft (while it is hoisted at the rear) will take some effort because of
weight.  Remember the nose wheel will not be much help with the aircraft
tilted.  Just thinking out loud.

Scott Baker

On Nov 20, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Craig Woolston <cdwoolston at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

If the engine is or even if it's not an engine host at the back end will
push in any direction, with it's four catering wheels rather than using the
mains.  This will let you basically twist and move the airplane sideways,
if necessary.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 20, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Scott Baker <scottb33333 at gmail.com> wrote:

Please keep in mind that while it appears on paper that the aircraft can be
tilted to fit through the opening, physically doing so might be challenging
- especially if the engine is installed. Be thinking about what kind of
hoist you will need to do the job of lifting, rotating, and transporting
+1200 pounds of 'slippery shaped' airplane through the opening.

Best wishes to everyone for a warm and happy Thanksgiving!

Scott Baker

On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Clayton Chase <chasec at gmail.com> wrote:

Reiff:
Thanks for the measurements.  I am now confident that I can fit this
through the opening.

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Reiff Lorenz <Reiff at lorenz.com> wrote:

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> asked, I went and measured my XL-RG. I'll post the dimensions here for
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> From aft strake-tip to aft strake-tip it measured 141 3/4 inches. My
> strakes are 8  5/16" tall at that point. The plane will be a few inches
> wider toward the front of the strakes. The outboard edge of the strakes is
> 90 degrees to the main spar, but the spar is angled a few degrees aft on
> each side, so the strake tips angle out a few degrees. The outboard side of
> the strake is 18 ½ inches long. My trig is rusty (and I don't know the spar
> angle) so I'm not sure how much the distance widens from the aft strake-tip
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> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Clayton Chase
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:16 PM
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> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Need some advice/measurements****
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> I'd like to mount the engine in the basement although I'm not so sure how
> much I want to run it in there even if I have a heat-capable exhaust pipe
> running outside.   The nearest hangar I can afford that I could do any work
> on the plane is about 50 minutes away, so I want to do everything I can at
> home before I move the project.
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> I called the factory and they say that it's exactly 12' wide and that the
> main spar height plus perhaps 1/4" will be the vertical dimension I need to
> worry about and it's less than 14", so with that and some minor
> trigonometry I determined that I will be just fine.   I'd be able to get it
> through my 7' high ceiling and 11' 1" width passage even if the spar was
> 12' 6" long.****
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> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com> wrote:**
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> How complete are you going to go in the basement?  Are you going to mount
> the engine in the basement?
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> Ask the factory if there is a layup plan that will allow you to glass in
> the spar after the firewall and fuselage has been built.  You'd be building
> strakes and baffles and spar after moving out of the basement.  ****
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> On 11/14/2012 12:33 PM, Clayton Chase wrote:****
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> Hi, all.   The plans for my basement modification took a sad turn today,
> the width of my opening to get the plane past one post has to be shrunk
> from 12' to 11' 1".   The height there is 7'.    Am I going to run into
> problems?
>
> Can someone tell me to the nearest 1/2" how wide the fueselage and strakes
> are at the widest point?    How high are the ends of the strakes?   I'm
> assuming they are about 14" high but don't know exactly.
>
> Using several estimated heights of the strakes:
> For 10" high I can handle a length of 12' 8.2"
> For 14" high, I can only get a length of 12' 6.2"
> For 18" high I can only a length of 12' 4.5" through
>
> This is cutting it a LOT closer than I like.
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