REFLECTOR: Test Area - and "essential crew"

[Hiroo Umeno]

Quite interesting indeed...

 

It seems like much depends on the DAR.  I've always thought having
another body in the right seat with a clipboard would be quite handy for
the flight testing as I need to rattle off some numbers and have them
jot down as I go along.  For things like when the pitch buck starts,
things that happen during take-off and landing rolls, buffeting, etc
when I will be quite busy flying the plane.

 

Definitely something to ask the DAR about.

 

Thanks, all for good discussions!

 

Hiroo

 

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:52 AM
To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Test Area - and "essential crew"

 

  My

understanding of the FAR was that you can only land at one field during

the Phase 1 and will have a box somewhere nearby over sparsely populated

areas.

 

That was my understanding as well, but while discussing possible other
landing strips in my test area for emergency landing, my DAR indicated I
could land at any field of my choice at any time.  Nothing in the
operating limitations limiting where I land within the test area.

 

The other interesting thing is the change in wording on the operating
limitations regarding other people in the plane.  Previous wording I had
seen was no one besides the pilot and "essential crew".  By the FAA's
definition, there is no essential crew in a single engine airplane.  The
wording on mine now says "only persons essential to the purpose of the
flight".  My DAR says someone to take data, or other actions for a
particular test purpose, during the flight is quite alright.

 

So maybe it depends on the discretion of the DAR; which doesn't really
seem appropriate.

 

Al

 

I would love to be able to fly the plane down to its home field once a

couple flights is done to continue its fly-off.  They have a longer

runway (enough for 747s and 777s.), it is a controlled field and have a

much better support in terms of FBOs and emergency equipments

(hopefully, I won't need their services but it is always nice to know

they're there).

 

It looks like there is some flexibility in the regs to make arrangements

like that.

 

Hiroo

 

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On

Behalf Of Richard Riley

Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:45 PM

To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list

Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Another step

 

At 10:29 PM 5/9/2006, you wrote:

 

>Congrats from DU Al....now how ya gonna fly off 

>the 40 hrs within 2 weeks so you can get this beast down to the

symposium?

 

I'll let you all in on a little secret.

 

In 99 we were finishing a plane to run at 

Reno.  We did a year's worth of work in about 6 

weeks.  Got it done a few days before the race.

 

I got a DAR who'd never inspected a homebuilt 

before.  He didn't know what homebuilt flight 

limitations normally looked like.  So I typed them up for him.

 

We got a test area that was a 25 mile radius 

around Camarillo airport, where we did the first 

flight.   But, we were allowed to test out of a 

couple of other airports too.  We had a 25 mile 

radius around Mojave and Fox, and a 10 mile corridor between them.

 

And 25 miles around Chino, and a corridor there.

 

And 25 miles around Stead.  And a corridor there.

 

And that's how it was that were racing at Reno 

with an airplane that had it's first flight 4 days earlier.   

 

 

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