REFLECTOR: Painting with Awlgrip

Ron Brown romott at adelphia.net
Mon Jul 4 13:09:10 CDT 2005 

Aircraft Remover (strange name - didn't really want my aircraft removed - 
just the paint ;))

It is available at auto parts stores (AutoZone, Advance Auto) and some 
hardware stores.

It is a commonly used paint stripper (as in stripping ALL of the paint off a 
Spam Can - even the zinc chromate).

It really worked wonders for my paint gun.  In fact, I have a couple of my 
old guns that are next!!!  Use gloves and safety glasses - it is vicious on 
your skin!!!

Ronnie


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Sower" <canarder at frontiernet.net>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Painting with Awlgrip


> <... used some Aircraft Remover to clean the spray head.  Worked great - 
> even cleaned the paint that had been building around the "fan" air nozzles 
> ...>
> What exactly is this stuff, where do you get it and what does it cost?  I 
> didn't think there was much of anything better than MEK.  I'll be doing 
> some painting in the not to distant future and I'll need all the cleaning 
> help I can get.
>
> Thanks ... Jim  S.
>
> PS  I looked at those Mohawk respirators (hoods).  Said hoses (and 
> presumably pumps) were available separately but I couldn't find them. 
> Anyone got the menu chain for me?
>
>
> Ron Brown wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Maybe it's not Orange Peel, but it sure is lumpy!  My HF HVLP gun had 
>> several of the tiny holes stopped up.  I cleaned them with MEK and a 
>> small piece of wire.  That helped but the droplets were still pretty 
>> large - instead of the desired fine mist.  Yesterday, I used some 
>> Aircraft Remover to clean the spray head.  Worked great - even cleaned 
>> the paint that had been building around the "fan" air nozzles.  Now I 
>> have a nice mist again. I have found out that just cleaning the nozzles 
>> with MEK or acetone is not enough.  Awlgrip as well as the 545 primer 
>> will dry on the spray head during a paint session and just will not clean 
>> up with thinner.  The Aircraft Remover will clean the build up easily!!!
>>
>> Here's a good web page re adjusting HVLP guns. 
>> http://www.autobodystore.com/ms6.htm
>>
>> I am ordering some of the T0005 and will let you know if that improves 
>> the flow out.
>>
>> Ronnie
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Derrick" <scott at tnstaafl.net>
>> To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Painting with Awlgrip
>>
>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> Orange peel is not caused by a sputtering gun...
>>>
>>> Did you get some T0005 reducer to slow down the flash off time?
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> Ron Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Great info about the recoating.  Sure enough, the underside of my 
>>>> canard came out with lots of orange peel due to the paint gun nozzle 
>>>> sputtering from not being clean.
>>>>
>>>> I went to the parts store and got a can of Airplane Remover - paint 
>>>> stripper and soaked the air head/nozzle for 10 minutes.  Then rinsed it 
>>>> off with water and dried with air.  Just like new again.
>>>>
>>>> I will scuff the canard and reshoot it.  Glad to hear that I don't have 
>>>> to take all the paint off - just scuff and shoot another coat.
>>>>
>>>> Did you get to shoot your fuselage?
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday is supposed to be a lower humidity day so I'll be shooting the 
>>>> bottom of the left wing - first big area so I'm looking forward to 
>>>> seeing if I am making any progress learning to shoot the Awlgrip.
>>>>
>>>> Ronnie
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Jackson" <bobj at computer.org>
>>>> To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:09 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Painting with Awlgrip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Scott -- can you get us a part # for that AWLgrip "Anti-orange peel"
>>>>> additive you mentioned?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ronnie -- we use 320 and 400 grit Mirka Gold pads on a 5" random 
>>>>> orbital
>>>>> sander to take out the orange peel bumps and runs.  We also tried 
>>>>> shaving
>>>>> off the runs once and then painting over just the shaved runs with a 
>>>>> small
>>>>> detail paint brush, but it's hard to do without also scratching the
>>>>> surrounding area and you can still see where the run has been painted 
>>>>> over.
>>>>>
>>>>> We use 3M Softback Sanding Sponges (about 4x5 inches) for dulling the
>>>>> AWLgrip in areas not sanded as above before the  final coats.  The 
>>>>> 'Fine'
>>>>> grade foam is equivalent to 320-400 grit, and the 'Superfine' is 
>>>>> equivalent
>>>>> to 500-600 grit paper.  Once we start painting with the AWLgrip, we 
>>>>> rarely
>>>>> use anything coarser than 320.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever the spray gun starts sputtering you know you're in trouble 
>>>>> and that
>>>>> you're going to be doing to repair sanding later!  It teaches you the
>>>>> importance of really getting your gun clean after each paint session. 
>>>>> We've
>>>>> been using Klean Strip brand "Naked Gun" Spray Gun Cleaner (GSG-14) 
>>>>> which
>>>>> comes in a square red can and really does a great job of cleaning 
>>>>> spray
>>>>> guns.  You still have to do some scrubbing with a brush, but this 
>>>>> stuff will
>>>>> even loosen old paint dried in the gun after a while!  It can be 
>>>>> washed out
>>>>> with water, but I prefer to just whip it out and then before you store 
>>>>> your
>>>>> gun away, run a little reducer (or T008 cleaner) through it to get out 
>>>>> any
>>>>> remaining water.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
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