REFLECTOR:Presidential TFR

[Nolan Frederick]

Scott,
    Dear Scott, "How do y'all work around it?" Well, Scott, when November
comes you could vote ABBB.
(Any Body But Bush).  This is the only way we're going to get rid of
Ashcroft.
nolan.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Baker" <sbakr@comcast.net>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:15 AM
Subject: REFLECTOR:Presidential TFR


>
> When Scott and I were flying N271TC from Copperstate back to Florida, I
> spoke with FSS briefers to get all of the important TFR information
relating
> to our trip.  Our route took us to the north of the inner ring of the
> Presidential TFR in Texas, but inside of the "big" ring (which is
activated
> when GW is home on the ranch).  The FSS briefer said that the "big" ring
was
> not active, but to "be sure to ask ATC again when you get closer ... you
> never know when it might become active".  Being a good boy, I called ...
(is
> it Waco Approach??) ATC when we just entered the "big" ring and asked if
> there were any changes to the TFR.  The approach controller ripped into me
> with a lecture about the importance of getting a ground briefing and that
I
> was (fill in all sorts of terrible words) for asking about the status of a
> TFR when the aircraft had (by the time I completed my transmission) just
> penetrated the TFR airspace.  I didn't reply that a) I had received a
> briefing 3-hours ago, and b) I was simply following through with what the
> FSS briefer asked me to do ... call again just to make sure.  I guess ATC
> and the Secret Service take Presidential TFR's pretty seriously.  Gwad,
> that's a big hunk of Texas that's put out of air circulation when the big
> ring is activated.  How do y'all work around it?
> SB
>
>
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