REFLECTOR:Full stopping at gross.

[reflector@tvbf.org]

> IF you are at full gross and then right before lift,
> you abort, will the current Matco brakes NOT be able to
> lock the tires?

I could on my XL but lots of folks say they can't. But I bled and bled and bled and bled before I got to the point where I could lock them up! :) 

> If I recall, the situation that happened before was that full brakes
> were not applied so as not to flat spot the tires, but just ride them
> hard, which led to brake fade.

If you talking about me then that is close except I was not making any effort trying to avoid flat spotting. I was just hitting the brakes "normally". The difference was that "normally" I had coasted down to maybe 30 knots after touch down before hitting the brakes whereas on that particular day I was doing 58 knots. 

> If the brakes will lock the wheels, then wouldn't the proper procedure
> for an aborted take-off with minimal runway left <2000 would be to 
> stomp and lock the wheels.

Sure! We also discussed retracting the nose wheel and some other emergency stopping procedures as well. IMHO though aren't good brakes really the simplest, safest answer even if they cost an extra $500? I think the Factory trade in program for Cleveland's is truly EXCELLENT. All hail the factory crew for making this available!!

I am as cheap as anyone out there but if you are in an XL then spend the money and make the trade! It sure beats that sickening feeling of coasting down the runway with no stopping and no steering heading for the ditch and the state highway at the end of the runway. :) 

DM Rob