REFLECTOR:Wing Voids in Shaw's Wings
Al Gietzen
reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:09:18 -0700
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Ronnie,
I had heard from an inside source who wanted to remain anonymous that=20
Velocity had experienced some quality issues with the later shaw wings=20
that he wouldn't fess up to and that was part of the reason they(shaw=20
and velocity) split the sheets.
I don't know about Velocity's experience, but I know about my own. On =
one
wing there were a number of small unbonded areas, about 1" to 2" in dia, =
and
about half dozen in a row. The other wing had a couple of areas =
equivalent
of about 3 -4: dia. The worst issue was a very noted difference in =
leading
edge contour. One wing had a ridge of epoxy on the lower part of the
leading edge, which rather than being taken off was nicely contoured =
over
with filler; which, of course changed the shape. I had to rework the =
entire
leading edge, and it is still not quite the same as the other.
When installing the exit fairing for my wing root radiator and oil =
cooler, I
was surprised to find considerable unevenness in the underlying triax, =
and
filler more than 1/4" thick over it. Maybe that' not unusual, I don't =
know.
At that time, and also when installing aileron fences where I sanded off =
the
filler, I noted that the strands in the triax were very wavey, like no
attempt had been made to pull them straight as required by the manual.
Then, just today; I discovered a bulge on the surface of the wing that =
was
definitely not there two years ago when I worked on the wings. Another
disbonded area, maybe 3-4" in diameter. Why now when the wings have =
been
lying quietly in storage? Makes you wonder.
Not that there is any value in bashing Wingco wings at this point, but
today's discovery brought all the issues back to mind. I guess it may =
be a
reminder that you might make a point of checking the surfaces =
occasionally.
Of course I won't even begin to recount the problems I had with parts =
from
Velocity. I think maybe 1996 was not a good year. But then Velocity =
has
always been there to make things right if I couldn't do it myself. That
makes it a lot easier to forgive and forget. =20
Ah-h-h; thanks. I feel better now. I'm sure this beats therapy.
Al=20
Ronnie Brown wrote:
> Yes, that is correct. As I understand it, Alan used female molds =
similar
to
> the way the fuselage is done, except the wings are solid so I would
imagine
> it is difficult to get the triax to stay against the mold when the =
foam is
> laid in. There is a scattering of 25 or so of these large pits over =
about
a
> 5 foot section of the leading edge on the left wing and 3 similar pits =
on
> the leading edge of the right side winglet. I'm sure these would have
> popped if I had put the final paint on it too, so I'm happy I waited. =
I
> still have a bit of right wing heavy so I need to put a shim in which =
will
> require a little rework of the wing to strake joint.
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> Ronnie
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Derrick" <scott@tnstaafl.net>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Wing Voids in Shaw's Wings
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> | Yeah I thought that odd too? Did the rain bust the skin over the =
voids?
> |
> | Scott
> |
> | Chuck Jensen wrote:
> |
> | > Ronnie,
> | >
> | > How were the rain and voids related? That's an odd one, or is it?
> | >
> | > Chuck
> | >
> | > -----Original Message-----
> | > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> | > Behalf Of Ronnie Brown
> | > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:20 AM
> | > To: reflector@tvbf.org
> | > Subject: REFLECTOR:Wing Voids in Shaw's Wings
> | >
> | >
> | > Hi Chuck I'm here!
> | >
> | > But fixing to go to the airport to fly a bit (its been awfully =
murky
> around
> | > here for a week!) and then fill a bunch of little voids (approx 20 =
-
> 1/8"
> | > dia in the left wing leading edge) that I found after running =
through
> some
> | > heavy rain on the way back from Oshkosh.
> | >
> | > Glad I haven't put the final paint on yet!!!
> | >
> | > Ronnie
> | >
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
> | > To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> | > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:53 AM
> | > Subject: REFLECTOR:Test
> | >
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