REFLECTOR:IFR Ticket
Rene Dugas
reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:46:35 -0500
I got both Sporty's and King, studied hard, then tried the local route
with no success. Flew my Cardinal Rg to American Flyers in Fort Worth
and got the ticket in six days. I like total immersion. It works in
IFR, language, medicine and sports. It is just very intense. Good prep
makes a difference. Check ride was almost 9 hours of oral and flight
time. It was thorough. They saw my mistakes immediately then pounded
the corrections into my cranium. I am glad I did the "10 day route".
Used the Cardinal because the Velo was not finished.
Rene'
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Christopher Barber
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:25 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:IFR Ticket
No problem Chuck, I will send you the first 26 hour day invoice...hmm,
at
$225.00 per hour, lets see.....$5850.00 just make the cashiers check out
to
Christopher Barber....heck we can actually just make it out directly to
Velo
or ACSpruce (ok, should be to student loans <g>)
I'll let you choose.
Actually knowing the difference between King and Sporty's makes this
list
worth every penny we donated. Any other thoughts on the two?....or
others?
All the best,
Chris
Christopher Barber
Attorney and Counselor at Law
11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
Suite 103
Houston, Texas 77089-4755
281-464-LAWS (5297)
281-754-4168 (Fax)
"Serving the needs of Senior Texans"
CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
www.TexasAttorney.net
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Chuck Jensen
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:12 AM
To: 'reflector@tvbf.org'
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:IFR Ticket
I've read the books and stuff too, but for fast absorption and putting
the
whole picture together, the King videos are, well, King. I was a more
than a
little intimidated after reading the "stuff", but was comfortably
over-confident after the videos.
The couple hundred bucks aren't much in the whole picture. Heck, you
can
just bill one of those 26 hours days that lawyers are (in)famous for and
you
can cover it several times over!
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Christopher Barber
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:07 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:IFR Ticket
Ok, I will be the bonehead to ask....how do you pass with 10 seconds of
your
instruction. Yes, I want to be a good IFR pilot and be safe and I know
there is no substitute for good learning and experience. However, we
must
pass a test that from what I have been told, may or may not have much to
do
with what you actually do flying IFR (gee, has very little to do with
what
you actually do....sounds like the bar exam)
I have already taken a 12 week ground school just to get an idea of what
to
expect. Gleim materials....short and sweet info. I figured this way it
would not all be so new to me. Also, the Jepp book on IFR is VERY user
friendly. I like having it just as a solid reference. However, the
reality
is, I know I will need to basically start from scratch before I really
feel
comfortable with the skill and knowledge. After all it is only a matter
of
life and death....more important....my airplane <g>
Curious minds wish to know.
All the best,
Chris
Christopher Barber
Attorney and Counselor at Law
11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
Suite 103
Houston, Texas 77089-4755
281-464-LAWS (5297)
281-754-4168 (Fax)
"Serving the needs of Senior Texans"
CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
www.TexasAttorney.net
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of HYTEC45@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:44 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:IFR Ticket
In a message dated 8/7/03 6:27:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
cjensen@dts9000.com writes:
<<
Now, the best way? Any experience or opinions out there about the
best,
most efficient program? >>
If you are looking for speed that's one thing. If you are looking for
retention, IMHO, I would stay away from the 10 day wonders. You only
need
15hrs?
(been a long time) with a CFII, not 40 to qualify for the check ride.
40 is
the
total actual or simulated time needed. Not everyone has the situation I
had
but what I did was this. I took the ground school/test first. Next, I
have
a
friend who I felt was a good safe IFR pilot (or make a new friend that
is).
He was willing and quite able to provide instruction as "safety pilot"
and
really showed me all the roped. IFR is like welding, 10% instruction
and
90%
practice. The beauty was it not only helped me, but my buddy also got a
good
brushing up. After about 25hrs of flying all the approches/holdings,
enroute and
such with my buddy, I "interviewed" (very important here) a CFII to do
the
final brushup, polishing and provide the indorsement. My cost was
aircraft/fuel
(my own) and 10/15hrs. CFII. There are a lot of highly qualified IFR
pilots
that in some cases can provide better instruction than some II's, but
they
have
other interests than jumping through hoops for the ticket.
This is of course only one of may ways to go about it.
If speed is what your looking for, in 30 seconds I can teach you how to
ace
any FAA written (without cheating). You won't rememnber s#*t, but
you'll
pass.
I've always wondered about the 10 day thing and how much is retained.
TEC
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