REFLECTOR:IFR Ticket
Ronnie Brown
reflector@tvbf.org
Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:19:03 -0400
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Re: REFLECTOR:Re:Velocity EuropeHere's how I did it. I am always trying =
to save money so this may not be best for everybody. But it was =
enjoyable and worked for me.
I read Gleim's instrument pilot manual.
I practiced using Microsoft Flight Simulator (FS 98)
Use flight following every chance you get. VFR flight following is very =
much like IFR communications except for the approaches.
Used the King test videos.
Found an independent CFII using NAFI's list.
Developed a training syllabus with the CFII (I like to study and =
practice before going up with a CFII)=20
Used my partners on our Cessna to fly right seat safety pilot (instead =
of having the instructor do all of the 50 or so hours required). I find =
instructors too often don't let you figure stuff out on your own.=20
I practiced using Microsoft Flight Simulator (FS 98)
I practiced using Microsoft Flight Simulator (FS 98)
I used 30 hours of CFI time and 20 hours of Safety Pilot time for a =
total of 50 hours.
This occurred over a period of 6 months. Oh and by the way, get your =
CFII to do a complete IFR flight with you early in your training - else =
it doesn't make a whole lot of sense until too late.
And as someone recently pointed out, all this does is get you the =
instrument rating and an license to learn. Proceed slowly as you build =
confidence flying in the clouds and making approaches while in the clag. =
And don't fly too close to lightning storms in plastic airplanes!!!!!!
My total cost was about $2500 (CFII, $30 per hour for our 172, and =
books, materials, etc.) and very much worth it!
Ronnie
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chuck Jensen=20
To: 'reflector@tvbf.org'=20
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:02 AM
Subject: REFLECTOR:IFR Ticket
Ronnie has certainly wetted a persons appetite for finally getting =
their IFR ticket. Oshkosh this year was a great example of the value. =
Us VFRers were always looking at the air show with one eye and checking =
the weather with the other. Since I've been flying for over 20 years, I =
thought it was getting close to the time where it might be appropriate =
to upgrade the VFR ticket.
Now, the best way? Any experience or opinions out there about the =
best, most efficient program? The 10 day wonder programs look like =
about $3,500 and you stay there. The PIC program is about $5,000 but =
you work out of your home base, again for 10 intensive days. I've heard =
so many unsat experiences (not necessarily in our local, but everywhere) =
of attempting to do it locally where the program is not well defined or =
organized and drags out over many months, or longer. =20
So, any thoughts or experiences to provide guidance.
Chuck
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Here's how I did it. I am =
always trying to=20
save money so this may not be best for everybody. But it was =
enjoyable and=20
worked for me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I read Gleim's instrument pilot=20
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I practiced using Microsoft Flight =
Simulator (FS=20
98)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Use flight following every chance =
you get. =20
VFR flight following is very much like IFR communications except for the =
approaches.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Used the King test =
videos.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Found an independent CFII using =
NAFI's=20
list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Developed a training syllabus with =
the CFII (I=20
like to study and practice before going up with a =
CFII) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Used my partners on our Cessna to =
fly right seat=20
safety pilot (instead of having the instructor do all of the 50 or so =
hours=20
required). I find instructors too often don't let you figure stuff out =
on your=20
own. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I practiced using Microsoft Flight =
Simulator (FS=20
98)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I practiced using Microsoft Flight =
Simulator (FS=20
98)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I used 30 hours of CFI time and 20 =
hours of=20
Safety Pilot time for a total of 50 hours.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>This occurred over a period of 6 =
months. =20
Oh and by the way, get your CFII to do a complete IFR flight with you =
early in=20
your training - else it doesn't make a whole lot of sense until too =
late.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>And as someone recently pointed out, =
all this=20
does is get you the instrument rating and an license to learn. =
Proceed=20
slowly as you build confidence flying in the clouds and making =
approaches while=20
in the clag. And don't fly too close to lightning storms in =
plastic=20
airplanes!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>My total cost was about $2500 (CFII, =
$30 per=20
hour for our 172, and books, materials, etc.) and very much worth=20
it!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Ronnie</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dcjensen@dts9000.com =
href=3D"mailto:cjensen@dts9000.com">Chuck=20
Jensen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
href=3D"mailto:'reflector@tvbf.org'">'reflector@tvbf.org'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 07, 2003 =
10:02=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:IFR =
Ticket</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D677531813-07082003><FONT size=3D2>Ronnie has =
certainly wetted a=20
persons appetite for finally getting their IFR ticket. Oshkosh =
this year=20
was a great example of the value. Us VFRers were always looking =
at the=20
air show with one eye and checking the weather with the other. =
Since=20
I've been flying for over 20 years, I thought it was getting close to =
the time=20
where it might be appropriate to upgrade the VFR =
ticket.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D677531813-07082003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D677531813-07082003><FONT size=3D2>Now, the best =
way? Any=20
experience or opinions out there about the best, most efficient =
program? =20
The 10 day wonder programs look like about $3,500 and you stay =
there. =20
The PIC program is about $5,000 but you work out of your home base, =
again for=20
10 intensive days. I've heard so many unsat experiences (not =
necessarily=20
in our local, but everywhere) of attempting to do it locally =
where the=20
program is not well defined or organized and drags out over many =
months, or=20
longer. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D677531813-07082003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D677531813-07082003><FONT size=3D2>So, any thoughts =
or=20
experiences to provide guidance.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D677531813-07082003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D677531813-07082003><FONT=20
size=3D2>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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