REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 102, Issue 82

[Patrick Sieders]

Not to judge

What Scott wrote is certainly true, and is hammered on in my company flying the 'big metal' around. The chain is there to be broken and it will if we will remember to always fly the aircraft.

No matter what breaks, your first instinct should always be " Aviate, Navigate, Communicate". This is certainly something that is not practiced a lot, and you really have to force yourself to take a deep breath sometimes, count to 10 and then work the problem. But never, EVER forget to fly first !

Oh, and forget about all the electronic wizardry.. fly old style, just remember some the the high profile accidents we have had lately... Asiana, Air france, Colgan Air..

Something we as a group need to think about and be able to discuss. I hate to bring this up in a sensitive time, but it needs to be communicated.

Hope they willbe back home soon and recovering quickly.
Patrick Sieders




Sent from my ASUS Pad

Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net> wrote:

>When I worked for the FAA, we would sometimes be assigned to accident 
>investigation to do the drudgery work for the real investigators.
>
>I was always amazed that in almost all instances it was a series or 
>chain of mistakes by the pilot/copilot/mechanic that led to the 
>accident, Never just one. Break the chain and no accident.
>
>Be vigilant out there!
>
>Scott
>
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>Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 102, Issue 82
>From: Mark Riley <the_rileys1 at verizon.net>
>To: reflector at tvbf.org <reflector at tvbf.org>
>Date: 09/23/2013 02:45 PM
>
>> Here's the word on the crash from Scott Swing. Fred Marconi and Manny
>> Lewis were doing touch and goes. They forgot to latch door, which departed in flight. They returned to make an emergency landing. They forgot to put the gear down. When they realized it, they pulled back on the stick, then bellied it in. Both are in the hospital. Scott has spoken with Fred. They are injured but will recover.
>>
>> Mark
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:05:43 -0400
>>> From: Michael Watson <mikewatsspg at gmail.com>
>>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: N244FM down at KPHK
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>>> I'm fifteen minutes from KPHK at KLNA. I usually go there for fuel as it is
>>> much cheaper
>>> than at KLNA. Hope both occupants are OK. The plane looks intact. could
>>> have been a
>>> gear up landing that went off the side of the runway.
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know who said it.
>>>>
>>>> "Never let facts get in the way of a good story."  (or a bad story... or
>>>> ANY story)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Velocity <velocityxl at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why do they even bother reporting  if they have no clue of what has
>>>>> happened ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/22/2013 7:01 PM, Don Johnston wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You are giving *WAY* too much credit to the news media.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm surprised they didn't report it as a remotely piloted drone that hit
>>>>> a car after having a mid-air with a UFO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Android mobile device.
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM, John Abraham <john at velocityaircraft.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not understanding the plane was upside down?  There is no damage to
>>>>>> winglets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 5:07 PM, "Richard J. Gentil" <
>>>>>> richard at naples-air-center.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was flying to KPHK this afternoon and found N244FM on the side of
>>>>>> the runway. I do not have any details other then the pilot is alive (I do
>>>>>> not know if Fred still owns it it not) and was helo'd to the hospital with
>>>>>> a possible broken back.
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>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
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>>> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:08:51 -0500
>>> From: Rene Dugas <renedugas at gmail.com>
>>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: N244FM down at KPHK
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>>> Sure looks good.  Hope the injuries are not serious.
>>>
>>> Sent from Rene's iPad. A pleasure.  Go Apple.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:07 PM, "Richard J. Gentil" <richard at naples-air-center.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was flying to KPHK this afternoon and found N244FM on the side of the runway. I do not have any details other then the pilot is alive (I do not know if Fred still owns it it not) and was helo'd to the hospital with a possible broken back.
>>>>
>>>> <photo 1.JPG>
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>>>>
>>>> Richard
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