REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 96, Issue 44
wimjhuisman
wimhuisman at gmail.com
Wed Mar 13 11:53:24 CDT 2013
Richard,
MYAM or MYAT are both good choices. Do not worry about liferafts, there is
no way to get a raft out the the airplane when you need it.
Once you ditch, and able to talk as well, it means you are safe, plenty of
foam, and I guarantee you wil never get a liferaft out of a Velocity once
water has gotten in your plane.
I sail on Ocean regattas with my Sailyacht, throwing it over the railing
when needed already is a BIG thing.
Life jackets at every seat is plenty, have fun
Wim
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> 1. Re: Flying to the Bahamas (Richard J. Gentil)
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> 3. Re: Keep FAA Towers Running (Scott Derrick)
> 4. Re: Keep FAA Towers Running (nmflyer1 at aol.com)
> 5. Re: Flying to the Bahamas (Patrick Sieders)
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:22:49 -0400
> From: "Richard J. Gentil" <richard at naples-air-center.com>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Flying to the Bahamas
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> <F3FEFC7E-3DB6-43EA-8189-D68432B49B2C at naples-air-center.com>
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> I always avoid the Bahamian Triangle, Sleazeport, Nauseous, and Bimini. I
> was planning to fly to Marsh Harbor and stay at Hope Town. I used to
> organize fly-ins to Marsh with Greg Rolle of the Bahamian Ministry of
> Tourism back in the 90's. Still love the place.
>
> Richard
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5
>
> On Mar 12, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Patrick Sieders <pjsieders at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I used to fly charters out of the Bahamas.. A raft is optional but
> highly recommended.. Lifevests required.. Make sure a gen dec is stamped at
> every airport.
> >
> > Where are you flying/staying ? Avoid Nassau and Freeport for POE..
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Grover McNair <grover at mcnairperformance.com>
> > Sent: March 12, 2013 17:52
> > To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list' <reflector at tvbf.org>
> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Flying to the Bahamas
> >
> > Here is a link from AOPA that explains everything.
> >
> https://www.eapisfile.com/Docs/International/Bahamas/AOPA%20Bahamas%20Flying
> > %20Guide.pdf
> > The rules on Experimentals are there but the Bahamians are not very
> strict
> > from my experience. I generally avoid Nassau and Freeport as Ports of
> Entry
> > (POE's). Smaller POE airports generally are quicker and easier to get in
> and
> > out of.
> > Grover McNair
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Scott Baker
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:59 PM
> > To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Flying to the Bahamas
> >
> > Hello Grover, All:
> > Unless Bahamian policies have recently changed, blanket approval is
> > given to all experimental aircraft to travel to the Bahamas. No prior
> > permissions needed.
> > Although I have never been asked for proof of insurance, I obtained a
> > letter from my aircraft insurance company that specifically says the
> > aircraft is insured for flight operations in the Bahamas.
> > Best,
> > Scott B.
> >
> >
> > On 3/12/2013 4:14 PM, Grover McNair wrote:
> >> Officially this is what is required, however it is often ignored.
> >>
> >> You must submit a request by fax to Nassau Civil Aviation along with a
> > copy
> >> of your Special Airworthiness Certificate, Registration and Experimental
> >> Operating Limitations. Fax 242-377-6060, information 242-377-3445
> >>
> >> Grover McNair
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Richard J. Gentil
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:20 PM
> >> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> >> Subject: REFLECTOR: Flying to the Bahamas
> >>
> >> I was looking to fly to the Bahamas this weekend. I was wondering what
> >> requirements there are for flying a Velocity out there.
> >>
> >> I have been there many times in certified aircraft. This is the first
> trip
> >> in an experimental aircraft.
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone 5
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:30:23 -0500
> From: Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Keep FAA Towers Running
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> I learned to fly out of a class C airport, and have flown into class B
> airports with no problem, so I'm not afraid of the procedures. With
> that said, I wonder about the effectiveness of some towers, and I
> wouldn't have any qualms flying into KGTU when the tower closes. Is
> your argument about safety, or is it about the possibility of closing
> the airport because there is no tower?
>
> I'm not sure about the mechanics of the latter. Is this a risk? Is it a
> justification for closing an airport?
>
> On 3/13/2013 10:06 AM, Ron N VelocityXLFG wrote:
> > Our Life is being attacked two towers in my area are being closed
> > because of budget cuts by
> > a person who can not be named. We need to fight to keep them because
> > if they close they are not coming back. just as many airports are
> > being closed to never return.
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:58:10 -0600
> From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:00:27 -0400 (EDT)
> From: nmflyer1 at aol.com
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Keep FAA Towers Running
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> There is usually no risk of an airport closing due to loss of a tower. The
> AIP plan covers that, at least in the short term. It can have long term
> effects though. Such as losing air carrier traffic (even if only a couple
> flights a day). That tends to take leverage out of the equation in terms of
> further funding for repairs and upgrades.
>
> That being said, the AIP (Airport Improvement Program) has tremendous
> inefficiencies and wastes built into it. As an example, we (our airpark)
> paid to re-pave our runway ourselves. Then I re-painted it. Total cost was
> right around $150K. It would have cost over 10 times that much if done
> under the regular system. So there is money to be saved, but the rules
> would have to change back somewhere near reality.
>
> Hmm, reminds me, I need to fire up the sweeper and go clean up the
> taxiways a little. Always Somethin'
>
> Kurt
> Mid Valley Airport E98
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 9:31 am
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Keep FAA Towers Running
>
>
> I learned to fly out of a class C airport, and have flown into class B
> airports with no problem, so I'm not afraid of the procedures. With that
> said, I wonder about the effectiveness of some towers, and I wouldn't have
> any qualms flying into KGTU when the tower closes. Is your argument about
> safety, or is it about the possibility of closing the airport because there
> is no tower?
>
> I'm not sure about the mechanics of the latter. Is this a risk? Is it a
> justification for closing an airport?
>
> On 3/13/2013 10:06 AM, Ron N VelocityXLFG wrote:
>
> Our Life is being attacked two towers in my area are being closed because
> of budget cuts by
> a person who can not be named. We need to fight to keep them because if
> they close they are not coming back. just as many airports are being closed
> to never return.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:16:17 -0500
> From: Patrick Sieders <pjsieders at comcast.net>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Flying to the Bahamas
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> Great ! I was based in Marsh from 97-99. Worked for Abaco Air..
>
> Fly right across Grand Bahama island, then your biggest stretch of water
> will be between the US and Freeport. But it sounds you already know that.
>
> Enjoy Hopetown !
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> Sent from my ASUS Pad
>
> "Richard J. Gentil" <richard at naples-air-center.com> wrote:
>
> >I always avoid the Bahamian Triangle, Sleazeport, Nauseous, and Bimini. I
> was planning to fly to Marsh Harbor and stay at Hope Town. I used to
> organize fly-ins to Marsh with Greg Rolle of the Bahamian Ministry of
> Tourism back in the 90's. Still love the place.
> >
> >Richard
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone 5
> >
> >On Mar 12, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Patrick Sieders <pjsieders at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I used to fly charters out of the Bahamas.. A raft is optional but
> highly recommended.. Lifevests required.. Make sure a gen dec is stamped at
> every airport.
> >>
> >> Where are you flying/staying ? Avoid Nassau and Freeport for POE..
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Grover McNair <grover at mcnairperformance.com>
> >> Sent: March 12, 2013 17:52
> >> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list' <reflector at tvbf.org>
> >> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Flying to the Bahamas
> >>
> >> Here is a link from AOPA that explains everything.
> >>
> https://www.eapisfile.com/Docs/International/Bahamas/AOPA%20Bahamas%20Flying
> >> %20Guide.pdf
> >> The rules on Experimentals are there but the Bahamians are not very
> strict
> >> from my experience. I generally avoid Nassau and Freeport as Ports of
> Entry
> >> (POE's). Smaller POE airports generally are quicker and easier to get
> in and
> >> out of.
> >> Grover McNair
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Scott Baker
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:59 PM
> >> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> >> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Flying to the Bahamas
> >>
> >> Hello Grover, All:
> >> Unless Bahamian policies have recently changed, blanket approval is
> >> given to all experimental aircraft to travel to the Bahamas. No prior
> >> permissions needed.
> >> Although I have never been asked for proof of insurance, I obtained a
> >> letter from my aircraft insurance company that specifically says the
> >> aircraft is insured for flight operations in the Bahamas.
> >> Best,
> >> Scott B.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/12/2013 4:14 PM, Grover McNair wrote:
> >>> Officially this is what is required, however it is often ignored.
> >>>
> >>> You must submit a request by fax to Nassau Civil Aviation along with a
> >> copy
> >>> of your Special Airworthiness Certificate, Registration and
> Experimental
> >>> Operating Limitations. Fax 242-377-6060, information 242-377-3445
> >>>
> >>> Grover McNair
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]
> On
> >>> Behalf Of Richard J. Gentil
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:20 PM
> >>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> >>> Subject: REFLECTOR: Flying to the Bahamas
> >>>
> >>> I was looking to fly to the Bahamas this weekend. I was wondering what
> >>> requirements there are for flying a Velocity out there.
> >>>
> >>> I have been there many times in certified aircraft. This is the first
> trip
> >>> in an experimental aircraft.
> >>>
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone 5
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> To change your email address, visit
> >>> http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
> >>>
> >>> Visit the gallery! www.tvbf.org/gallery
> >>> user:pw = tvbf:jamaicangoose
> >>> Check new archives: www.tvbf.org/pipermail
> >>> Check old archives:
> http://www.tvbf.org/archives/velocity/maillist.html
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> To change your email address, visit
> >> http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
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> >>> Visit the gallery! www.tvbf.org/gallery
> >>> user:pw = tvbf:jamaicangoose
> >>> Check new archives: www.tvbf.org/pipermail
> >>> Check old archives:
> http://www.tvbf.org/archives/velocity/maillist.html
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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