REFLECTOR: Velocity MEL (Minimum Equipment List)

Tue Jan 15 14:26:22 CST 2013

Only Class A, B and C require transponders, however read in class C for
instance : "furthermore aircraft overflying above the upper limit of Class C
airspace upward to 10,000 feet MSL must have an operating Mode C
transponder"

>From : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspace_class_(United_States) and my
own memory.

FYI.

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Reiff Lorenz
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:04 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Velocity MEL (Minimum Equipment List)

>> OK.  Can someone tell me how you conduct a flight and not be in the
vicinity of an airport?????<<

John,

Good catch. I was imprecise in my wording. I should have stated " . . . and
not in the vicinity of a major airport . . ." 

Near larger airports, a transponder is often required in addition to the
ELT.

Reiff Lorenz

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of John Dibble
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:43 PM
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Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Velocity MEL (Minimum Equipment List)

On 1/14/2013 4:22 PM, Reiff Lorenz wrote:

The attached document is what the EAA says about the equipment that is
required to be installed on powered E-AB aircraft. Basically, for Day VFR
flights that are not in the vicinity of an airport, you only need an ELT. 

OK.  Can someone tell me how you conduct a flight and not be in the vicinity
of an airport?????

No compass, no transponder, no lights, no seat belts, no fuel guage, no
altimeter . . . nothin' but the ELT! (Stay within 50 miles of takeoff and
you don't even need the ELT.)

If you don't have a Minimum Equipment List (MEL) established for your
aircraft, it seems your only flight requirement is the ELT. (And there's
even a provision that if the ELT is inop, you can fly to have it repaired.)

Want to fly at night? You'll need an altimeter, airspeed indicator, compass,
engine instruments, fuel gauge, seat belts with shoulder harnesses, spare
fuses, approved position lights and anti-collision lights. An  "adequate
source of power" is required but an alternator is optional.

Of course, IFR flight requires adding gyroscopic pitch, bank, and rate of
turn, clock, alternator, and a bunch of navigation equipment.

The original document can be found here:
http://www.eaa.org/sportaviationmag/2011/1103_ABEA_Requirements.pdf

This doesn't directly answer the question "Can I fly with a broken X?" But
it's part of the answer since the regs state that an aircraft can fly with
inoperative equipment if the equipment is not required for the aircraft for
type of flight being conducted. With nothing but an ELT required for day-VFR
flight, it leaves a lot of latitude to the pilot to decide if the flight is
safe without the equipment. (Just don't forget to document and placard it to
stay legal!)

I learned something today.

Reiff Lorenz, Dayton, OH

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