REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 101, Issue 33
jeff findarle
flynfindarle at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 12 13:09:34 CDT 2013
Cool, All in all, sounds like they are a definite asset in slower flight handling. I think I will rework the wingtips and intall them. Safety First!
TEAM JEFF,
Jeff Findarle, GRI & Darin Heckel
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AllStar Realty
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>My first plane had no winglets. My second plane has winglets. I like
>the look better without winglets. I like the handling a lot better with winglets.
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>> My STD RG does not have them and I think it flys fine, but I have not flown any other Velos, so I have nothing to compare to.
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>> Jon Bachman
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>> OK, I have talked to a few people who built their birds without the winglets and are telling me they are definitely fine without them. Any others out there like to comment?
>> Of course I realize that maybe they have not flown a Velocity with them, but they all said they have had no problems in slow flight controlability or in crosswind landings.
>> I really would prefer not to have them on the plane if possible.
>>
>> TEAM JEFF,
>> Jeff Findarle, GRI & Darin Heckel
>> Realtor Realtor
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>> AllStar Realty
>> 575 N main St.
>> Heber City, UT. 84032
>>
>> Jeff's Cell 435-503-0514
>> Darin's Cell 435-671-3957
>> Off. 435-654-9440
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>> Hello,
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>> I have about 600 hours without, and 130 with Winglets in a Velocity. There
>> should be no discussion, always put them on.
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>> With no wind and smooth approaches a 10 hour pilot can land a Velocity with
>> or without winglets, but with serious crosswinds and unstable approaches (
>> busy traffic, sharp turns towards final) you will get in trouble without
>> winglets fast.
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>>> OK, I have talked to a few people who built their birds without the
>>> winglets and are telling me they are definitely fine without them. Any
>>> others out there like to comment?
>>> Of course I realize that maybe they have not flown a Velocity with them,
>>> but they all said they have had no problems in slow flight controlability
>>> or in crosswind landings.
>>> I really would prefer not to have them on the plane if possible.
>>>
>>> ?
>>> TEAM JEFF,
>>> Jeff Findarle, GRI & Darin Heckel
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>>> 575 N main St.
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>>> Jeff's Cell 435-503-0514
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>>> I am flying without the winglets.
>>> I would like more directional control, and am compensating with faster
>>> approaches. I believe I will be testing them to see if they allow me
>>> better control at slower airspeeds.
>>>
>>> This will probably happen this fall after things cool off. I was at the
>>> airport testing on Saturday, battling my high temps. It's just too hot
>>> right now to tackle all of the minor squawks I've got. On my last
>>> flight I advanced the timing slightly and got a hot #3 cylinder as a
>>> result, but my oil duct cooling scoop seemed to work keeping my oil
>>> temps below redline.
>>>
>>> On 8/12/2013 11:35 AM, jeff findarle wrote:
>>>> OK, I have talked to a few people who built their birds without the
>>>> winglets and are telling me they are definitely fine without them. Any
>>>> others out there like to comment?
>>>> Of course I realize that maybe they have not flown a Velocity with
>>>> them, but they all said they have had no problems in slow flight
>>>> controlability or in crosswind landings.
>>>> I really would prefer not to have them on the plane if possible.
>>>> TEAM JEFF,
>>>> Jeff Findarle, GRI & Darin Heckel
>>>> Realtor Realtor
>>>>
>>>> AllStar Realty
>>>> 575 N main St.
>>>> Heber City, UT. 84032
>>>>
>>>> Jeff's Cell 435-503-0514
>>>> Darin's Cell 435-671-3957
>>>> Off. 435-654-9440
>>>> Fax 435-654-9437
>>>>
>>>> Distressed Property Experts, Short Sales a Specialty!
>>>> Don't Lose it, Sell it!
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>>> I have flown with winglets and had no issues.
>>> I prefer them not only for flight characteristics that many have
>>> documented but I think they look better also
>>> Kevin Baker
>>>
>>> .
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>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:35 AM, jeff findarle <flynfindarle at yahoo.com<javascript:;>>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> OK, I have talked to a few people who built their birds without the
>>> winglets and are telling me they are definitely fine without them. Any
>>> others out there like to comment?
>>>> Of course I realize that maybe they have not flown a Velocity with them,
>>> but they all said they have had no problems in slow flight controlability
>>> or in crosswind landings.
>>>> I really would prefer not to have them on the plane if possible.
>>>>
>>>> TEAM JEFF,
>>>> Jeff Findarle, GRI & Darin Heckel
>>>> Realtor Realtor
>>>>
>>>> AllStar Realty
>>>> 575 N main St.
>>>> Heber City, UT. 84032
>>>>
>>>> Jeff's Cell 435-503-0514
>>>> Darin's Cell 435-671-3957
>>>> Off. 435-654-9440
>>>> Fax 435-654-9437
>>>>
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>>>> Don't Lose it, Sell it!
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>> Add high density altitude to your thinking. Not much of that on those nice warm 90-100+ degree days in southern UT, AZ, NM, CA, TX, huh ?
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