REFLECTOR: Methods and Tools questions

Tue Oct 2 18:53:31 CDT 2012

Thanks for all the responses so far!   I'm glad I asked.     It sounds
like not much has been done with vacuum bagging on their Velocity.  I
guess it's up to me to see if I want to invest $800 or $1000 in
materials and equipment to see if it'll be worthwhile.    There was a
conversation a long time ago about release films and if you still
needed to sand, and after reading that and the study it referenced I
think I will sand even if I might not need to.

Brian:
You say I'll need an air compressor anyway; what do you use yours for
other than air powered tools?   And what size do you recommend?
2.5HP?   5HP?  How much storage?

About vibrating tools:  I have a Fein MultiMaster.  Boy does that
thing do a job!  I love it nearly as much as my dremel.     The first
three tools a man should have are a cordless drill, a dremel and then
a Fein saw.

I've currently got a bunch of mostly Makita tools, mostly cordless.
   Drill http://www.makita.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?ID=24026
   Reciprocating Saw
http://www.makita.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?ID=888
   Circular saw
http://www.makita.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?ID=24023
   Angle grinder.
http://www.makita.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?ID=10948
   Finishing sander (corded)
http://www.ryobitools.com/catalog/power_tools/corded/S652DK
   Random orbit sander (corded)
http://www.makita.com/en-us/Modules/Tools/ToolDetails.aspx?ID=316374
   Heat gun http://www.milwaukeetool.com/tools/specialty-tools/heat-guns/dual-temperature-heat-gun/8975-6
   Dust collector:
http://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html
   Dremel: (I've got a couple and everybody knows what a dremel is)
   Fein Multimaster:
http://www.feinus.com/en_us/oscillating/multimaster/fein-multimaster-top-plus-0285811/
   Shop Vac:   http://www.homedepot.com/Appliances-Vacuum-Cleaners-Floor-Care-Wet-Dry-Vacuums/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbv79/R-100081216/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051#.UGt4Q1HZ3ng
   Several random work lights, flashlights, hand tools, etc.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Rene Dugas <renedugas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Fein saw.  Vibrates or oscillates.  Many are serious advocates.
>
> Sent from Rene's iPad. A pleasure.  Go Apple.
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Gattenby <gattenby at tulsaconnect.com> wrote:
>
>> My 2 cents
>> A battery drill is a must.
>> I then went with a medium big air compressor,  then CHEAP air tools. Fiber glass dust is hard on tools.
>> One thing I didn't get that I wish I had was one of those vibratory cutting tools (don't know what they are called)
>> I know that Andy Millian built his with out using any air tools so each his own!
>> This summer my most used tool is a 17 inch air file (sander).  I wouldn't do slow build wings without one.
>>
>> Noel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Clayton Chase <chasec at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm getting closer to getting my basement ready and as a consequence
>>> actually being able to start on my kit.   Since I would like to
>>> complete the kit using the same methods I start with, I am asking the
>>> group for your collective wisdom.
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anybody successfully used vacuum bagging for much on the velocity?
>>> I went through Brett Ferrell's archive and some web searching and
>>> didn't find much.   Someone is selling strake baffles that are vacuum
>>> bagged and some of the quickbuild wings used to be done with vacuum
>>> bagging techniques, but I don't see much about it on the list.    If I
>>> do go for a vacuum system some things that I think will be good to do
>>> are the main wings, and winglets and the canard.  I'm not sure that
>>> I'll be able to do the layups that are on existing pieces very well
>>> since I'll need vacuum tape and need the other surface to be airtight.
>>> Plus if I did a large piece I'd be concerned about deforming the
>>> piece I'm adding onto.
>>>
>>> How much use would I get out of an air compressor?  All of my current
>>> power tools are electric/battery driven and I'd prefer to stick with
>>> more of those rather than have a mix of air and electric tools so the
>>> compressor would actually only provide air rather than tool power.
>>> The uses I can think of are mostly around dusting and cleaning.  I
>>> have an airless paint sprayer that may or may not be useful when I get
>>> to that stage.
>>>
>>> I've got saws, drills, sanders, sanding blocks, levels and straight
>>> edges and so on.  I'm planning on getting some clecos (and tool for
>>> them).    Any other tools you guys think I should get before I even
>>> start?
>>>
>>> Clay
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