REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 86, Issue 8
Mark Riley
the_rileys1 at verizon.net
Fri May 4 13:27:29 CDT 2012
Got mine through NAFCO.
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> 1. Re: Construction loans (Kevin Baker)
> 2. Re: Construction loans (Mark Magee)
> 3. Re: Construction loans (Lawrence Epstein)
> 4. drag brake and general reliability of AC equipment (David Ullman)
> 5. Re: drag brake and general reliability of AC equipment
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> 6. Re: drag brake and general reliability of AC equipment
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 09:14:19 -0500
> From: Kevin Baker <flykb at verizon.net>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Cc: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Construction loans
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> I'm pretty sure NAFCO does.
> They are at https://www.airloans.com/
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> Thanks
> Kevin
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> On May 4, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Lawrence Epstein <ljepstein at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Does anyone have any experience on obtaining financing for an unfinished project?
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> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:19:22 -0500
> From: Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Construction loans
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> Lawrence,
> If you have equity in a home I would think a home equity loan would do the trick possibly without near as much documentation and probably a better rate.
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> Mark B. Magee
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> On May 4, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Lawrence Epstein <ljepstein at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Does anyone have any experience on obtaining financing for an unfinished project?
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> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:27:53 -0400
> From: Lawrence Epstein <ljepstein at hotmail.com>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Construction loans
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> Short term is fine. Almost done and just need cash for the "big 3" (Engine,
> Prop & panel!).
>
> Any names you can give?
>
> Larry
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Stockman, Bill <
> bill.stockman at daytonaero.com> wrote:
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>> There are several banks that finance homebuilts?expecially if they are
>> kits from established companies like Velocity. ****
>>
>> However, I found that most wanted a short term loan?five years with a
>> balloon at the end. ****
>>
>> They want you to hurry up and finish?otherwise they have nothing but a
>> pile of parts to repossess.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Bill Stockman****
>>
>> Senior Associate****
>>
>> Dayton Aerospace, Inc.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 937.426.4300 Office****
>>
>> 937.369.4799 Cell****
>>
>> bill.stockman at daytonaero.com****
>>
>> www.daytonaero.com****
>>
>> ** **
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>> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Peter Braswell
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 04, 2012 9:32 AM
>> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Construction loans****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Lawrence,****
>>
>> Way-back-when I financed my Glastar kit as a new purchase from the
>> factory. Back then it was easy but times have changed and I don't know if
>> that's still the case. I don't recall the bank that I went through but it
>> was a standard loan process with just a few aviation specific details.
>> They insisted that I reserve an N-number, produce a bill of sale and carry
>> hull, not in motion insurance.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -Peter****
>>
>>
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>> ****
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>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Lawrence Epstein <ljepstein at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience on obtaining financing for an unfinished
>> project?
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> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:52:54 -0700
> From: "David Ullman" <ullman at robustdecisions.com>
> To: <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: REFLECTOR: drag brake and general reliability of AC equipment
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> I am part way through my 40 hours. I am mainly practicing landings - trying
> to get my speed down. At altitude I can drive around the sky at 75 kts with
> good control and the speed brake up, but seem to be fast on final. Trying
> to get to 80kt over the numbers. I have used the speed brake on all my
> landings to date.
>
> On Wed I went out to fly and speed brake would not deploy. I was still on
> the ground. After chasing the problem I found that it is not my wiring, but
> the motor itself not working. To get it out of the plane is major surgery.
> So, here is the question. Do I even need the speed brake? I know some
> people use it and some don't. I need to consistently get in and stopped on
> 3000ft so I can move to another airport. Can I do this without the speed
> brake? (I am learning on 5000ft, so not an issue just now). Any words of
> wisdom are appreciated.
>
> Also, I am having another, intermittent problem. The day the speed brake
> failed, the engine would not start. When I turned the key, I could hear the
> starter solenoid click, but no starter. This has happened once before, but
> all the other times, no problem. Both times I put a trickle charger on the
> battery (I don't usually leave it on and have a good battery.) and traced
> the problem to the solenoid. Both times, as soon as I traced the loss of
> current to the solenoid by checking voltages, the starter miraculously
> worked. In other words, by tracing the problem, it went away. This doesn't
> give me a feeling of confidence. The starter is new, the solenoid is new,
> the battery may have been a little down (I still need to check if there is
> any draw with the master is off. I don't see how there can be). Any
> thoughts? I am leaning toward replacing the solenoid.
>
> While on reliability, I had a problem with my Dynon ADAHRS. It was
> wandering all over. It is mounted under the rear pilot-side seat. I don't
> have the seat in yet and I made sure there was no ferrous material anywhere
> near it. So it was the unit, not my installation of it. They replaced it
> and all is fine. I also just bought two autopilot servos from them. One of
> them bound up when rotated. They replaced that also.
>
> All of this lack of reliability has not given me much encouragement.
>
> David Ullman
> N-444DX Velocity
> EAA 292 President
> david at davidullman.com
> 541-754-3609
> 1655 NW Hillcrest Dr
> Corvallis OR 97330
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 10:25:46 -0600
> From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: drag brake and general reliability of AC
> equipment
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> David,
>
> I have a speed brake and consider it a valuable tool for landing and
> slow flight. For landing I use it unless I see that I am too low or to
> slow when turning on to final, Otherwise I always use it turning on to
> final. Better visibility and shorter landings, less wear on the brakes.
> If your going to routinely be using a short field I would consider it
> a required item on my checklist. Sure you can get into short fields
> without it, but why push the envelope and extra wear on the brakes?
>
> Not sure why your actuator would fail so soon, mines over 10 years old
> with hundreds of cycles. Sure its not a bad connection, these actuators
> are tough?
>
> I would certainly figure out your battery problem. If your battery
> really is low after sitting a few days you either have a bad battery or
> a drain somewhere. Easy to test with a multimeter. Put a current meter
> in between your battery and connector. Turn on the master switch, be
> sure everything is else is off so your not drawing much current. Then
> turn the master off and see if the current goes to very very close to
> zero. I do it this way because the sequence of power on to power off
> can leave a relay engaged, but disconnecting the battery will disengage
> the relay and you won't see a sticky/hung relay,
>
> Scott
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: REFLECTOR: drag brake and general reliability of AC equipment
> From: David Ullman <ullman at robustdecisions.com>
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> Date: 05/04/2012 09:52 AM
>
>> I am part way through my 40 hours. I am mainly practicing landings - trying
>> to get my speed down. At altitude I can drive around the sky at 75 kts with
>> good control and the speed brake up, but seem to be fast on final. Trying
>> to get to 80kt over the numbers. I have used the speed brake on all my
>> landings to date.
>>
>> On Wed I went out to fly and speed brake would not deploy. I was still on
>> the ground. After chasing the problem I found that it is not my wiring, but
>> the motor itself not working. To get it out of the plane is major surgery.
>> So, here is the question. Do I even need the speed brake? I know some
>> people use it and some don't. I need to consistently get in and stopped on
>> 3000ft so I can move to another airport. Can I do this without the speed
>> brake? (I am learning on 5000ft, so not an issue just now). Any words of
>> wisdom are appreciated.
>>
>> Also, I am having another, intermittent problem. The day the speed brake
>> failed, the engine would not start. When I turned the key, I could hear the
>> starter solenoid click, but no starter. This has happened once before, but
>> all the other times, no problem. Both times I put a trickle charger on the
>> battery (I don't usually leave it on and have a good battery.) and traced
>> the problem to the solenoid. Both times, as soon as I traced the loss of
>> current to the solenoid by checking voltages, the starter miraculously
>> worked. In other words, by tracing the problem, it went away. This doesn't
>> give me a feeling of confidence. The starter is new, the solenoid is new,
>> the battery may have been a little down (I still need to check if there is
>> any draw with the master is off. I don't see how there can be). Any
>> thoughts? I am leaning toward replacing the solenoid.
>>
>> While on reliability, I had a problem with my Dynon ADAHRS. It was
>> wandering all over. It is mounted under the rear pilot-side seat. I don't
>> have the seat in yet and I made sure there was no ferrous material anywhere
>> near it. So it was the unit, not my installation of it. They replaced it
>> and all is fine. I also just bought two autopilot servos from them. One of
>> them bound up when rotated. They replaced that also.
>>
>> All of this lack of reliability has not given me much encouragement.
>>
>> David Ullman
>> N-444DX Velocity
>> EAA 292 President
>> david at davidullman.com
>> 541-754-3609
>> 1655 NW Hillcrest Dr
>> Corvallis OR 97330
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 11:54:35 -0500
> From: John Dibble <aminetech at bluefrog.com>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: drag brake and general reliability of AC
> equipment
> Message-ID: <4FA409CB.8010104 at bluefrog.com>
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> I have a speed brake on my SERG and rarely use it. If I don't set up my
> approach well and endup high on final, I might use it to salvage the
> approach, but I could also go around. If you're FG with wheel pants,
> you may have more of a need for the speed brake.
>
> I routinely land on a 2400 ft paved runway and can stop with just
> moderate braking. I try to get to 80 kn or less on short final, but can
> still make it at 90 kn. The runway has a perfect approach. The trick
> is to avoid coming in high. It took me 200 hours to get to this point.
> Rounding out 200 ft before the runway helps, if you can control well
> enough to assure you won't touch too soon.
>
> I had similar starting issues, especially when the engine was warm. I
> tried many things, but what finally worked was installing a car battery.
>
> John
>
> On 5/4/2012 10:52 AM, David Ullman wrote:
>> I am part way through my 40 hours. I am mainly practicing landings - trying
>> to get my speed down. At altitude I can drive around the sky at 75 kts with
>> good control and the speed brake up, but seem to be fast on final. Trying
>> to get to 80kt over the numbers. I have used the speed brake on all my
>> landings to date.
>>
>> On Wed I went out to fly and speed brake would not deploy. I was still on
>> the ground. After chasing the problem I found that it is not my wiring, but
>> the motor itself not working. To get it out of the plane is major surgery.
>> So, here is the question. Do I even need the speed brake? I know some
>> people use it and some don't. I need to consistently get in and stopped on
>> 3000ft so I can move to another airport. Can I do this without the speed
>> brake? (I am learning on 5000ft, so not an issue just now). Any words of
>> wisdom are appreciated.
>>
>> Also, I am having another, intermittent problem. The day the speed brake
>> failed, the engine would not start. When I turned the key, I could hear the
>> starter solenoid click, but no starter. This has happened once before, but
>> all the other times, no problem. Both times I put a trickle charger on the
>> battery (I don't usually leave it on and have a good battery.) and traced
>> the problem to the solenoid. Both times, as soon as I traced the loss of
>> current to the solenoid by checking voltages, the starter miraculously
>> worked. In other words, by tracing the problem, it went away. This doesn't
>> give me a feeling of confidence. The starter is new, the solenoid is new,
>> the battery may have been a little down (I still need to check if there is
>> any draw with the master is off. I don't see how there can be). Any
>> thoughts? I am leaning toward replacing the solenoid.
>>
>> While on reliability, I had a problem with my Dynon ADAHRS. It was
>> wandering all over. It is mounted under the rear pilot-side seat. I don't
>> have the seat in yet and I made sure there was no ferrous material anywhere
>> near it. So it was the unit, not my installation of it. They replaced it
>> and all is fine. I also just bought two autopilot servos from them. One of
>> them bound up when rotated. They replaced that also.
>>
>> All of this lack of reliability has not given me much encouragement.
>>
>> David Ullman
>> N-444DX Velocity
>> EAA 292 President
>> david at davidullman.com
>> 541-754-3609
>> 1655 NW Hillcrest Dr
>> Corvallis OR 97330
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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