REFLECTOR: Triax flange for doors

jerry at jlbent.com jerry at jlbent.com
Wed Nov 2 17:48:31 CDT 2011


Reiff,

Linda made a template for the shape to cut the triax.  If you want it I can
mail it or drop it off.  Basicallly, she took some paper and layed it on
the fuselage.  Drew the shape and then cut the paper to size.  We then cut
the triax as needed.  It really help, especially in the corners.  Triax
will move a lot, but can be difficult.


Jerry Brainard
Jerry at JLBEnt.com


   	-------Original Message-------
From: Reiff Lorenz
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Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Triax flange for doors
Sent: Nov 02 '11 8:48am


Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll let you know how it goes.


Reiff


FROM: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] ON
BEHALF OF Scott Baker
SENT: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:25 PM
TO: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
SUBJECT: Re: REFLECTOR: Triax flange for doors


> Protect the windscreen and side windows from Epoxy


> Allow the wetted tri-ax cloth to become "sticky" before applying - helps
with adhesion to side walls and ceiling


> Inside the fuselage, where the top and bottom halves are joined - be sure
to joint line is filled and glassed to create a continuous wall (no
grooves) - before applying tri-ax flange


> Be sure to re-check the adhesion of the tri-ax to the fuselage several
times (over several hours) after applying the material - you don't want it
to flop down and cure into a mess.


Scott B.


FROM: Brett Ferrell [mailto:bferrell at fastmail.fm]
SENT: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:46 PM
TO: Reiff Lorenz
SUBJECT: Re: REFLECTOR: Triax flange for doors


I didn't build mine, so clearly my advice isn't the most useful. But,
first, I'd bondo those sticks.  Maybe you have, I can't tell from the
picture, but you definitely don't want the door moving when you start the
layups.  Secondly, I'd make sure to make the flange a little fat.  you can
always trim it later, but adding will be really aggravating.


Oh, and tape the crap out of the door.  You want to make sure it releases
afterwards, and if you're going to add a windlace like ours onto the flange
later, a couple of layers of tape will give you some space in there for
that without putting too much pressure on the door.


And I wouldn't stress over it too much, if there's anything slightly out of
alignment, Scott can adjust it in about a hour while you're at the factory.
 ;-)


B


FROM: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] ON
BEHALF OF Brian Michalk
SENT: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:21 PM
TO: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
SUBJECT: Re: REFLECTOR: Triax flange for doors


My suggestion is to make sure you leave enough flange material so that it
will accept a decent gasket for sealing against the door.
The manual may have changed since 15 years ago, but if not, either make a
much smaller BID tape radius, or make a larger flange.


----- Original Message -----


FROM: [LINK: mailto:Reiff at lorenz.com] Reiff Lorenz


TO: [LINK: mailto:reflector at tvbf.org] Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders
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SENT: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 3:52 PM


SUBJECT: REFLECTOR: Triax flange for doors


I've just started building an XL RG. The doors fit pretty well, and I've
glued the cutouts back in temporarily. My next step is building the flange
around the inside of the door cutout with 2 plies of triax.


I'm planning on just following the directions in the manual unless someone
tells me there's an easier / better / faster way. Any words of wisdom?


Reiff Lorenz, Dayton, OH

XL RG fast-built fuselage

Brazillian wings & canard

1 month down, 83 to go


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