REFLECTOR: Who took this pic

Scott Derrick scott at tnstaafl.net
Sat Jul 11 08:39:17 CDT 2009


Actually I never got that high in my Bonanza,  16,500  was the highest,
and it did feel like I was riding a marble, ready to roll off to any
side at the slightest bump.

Scott

Scott Derrick wrote:
> Kurt,
>
> I've been at 19,000 ft in mine with the IO360. 
> The climb rate was pathetic!  But it felt fairly stable, nothing like my
> Bonanza that felt like I was riding a marble at that altitude.
>
> That pic is definitely taken from a few thousand ft agl.   Could be
> anywhere between 7 and 10,000 ft msl if it really is near Albuquerque....
>
> Rumor has it that El Nino, is kicking in and possibly giving is a lot
> more moisture this summer to fuel those thunder bumpers.  You guys at
> ATC getting a similar whether briefing?
>
> Scott
>
> nmflyer1 at aol.com wrote:
>   
>> Well, that is not what you said: 
>>
>> "At 30,000' you are normally looking down @ 80% of thunderstorms in
>> the southwest with the other 20% somewhere higher". 
>>
>> You did not say that you were looking down at 80% of the cell of a ts.
>>
>> As you know, in our jobs,saying what you mean is quite important. It
>> is also easy to loose in E-mail translation. 
>>
>> I have seen far too many people claim or advertise that you can get
>> above the weaher at "X" altitude.. and they are usually off by 50%.
>>
>> Just trying to clarify.  :) It definately looks like they are well
>> below the FL300 advertised. I hope to find out how high my V will go
>> pretty soon.
>>
>> KW
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>> Dear Controller, I am seriously right....at 30,000' you are looking
>> down at about 80% of the cell of the thunderstorm. Not implying that
>> 80% of the thunderstorms top out below 30,000'. My experience with
>> 7,000 hrs flying around thunderstorms in the southwest says as you say
>> the tops are usually 37 to 42,000, with occational superstorms going
>> well above 60,000.  This picture from this angle , ie; near the bases,
>> looks like an average every day new Mexico thunderstorm, definately
>> not a mid west super cell.
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 7/10/09, nmflyer1 at aol.com <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com>
>> /<nmflyer1 at aol.com <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com>>/* wrote:
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>>     From: nmflyer1 at aol.com <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com> <nmflyer1 at aol.com
>>     <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com>>
>>     Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic
>>     To: reflector at tvbf.org <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>>     Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 8:46 PM
>>
>>     You are seriously wrong saying that at FL300, you will be looking
>>     down on 80% of the thunderstorms in the SW.
>>     I have been a controller in the SW for 28 years, and the Average
>>     TS top this time of year is at least FL370, and I have had some of
>>     the new Citations even deviate around many above FL450.
>>
>>     If the statement were reversed, it may apply to the greater
>>     southwest area.
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>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From: Kathy Cook <gansehaut at yahoo.com <mailto:gansehaut at yahoo.com>>
>>     To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org
>>     <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>>
>>     Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 9:34 pm
>>     Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic
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>>     RE:  said picture from 30,000':  Anyone who has sat in the front
>>     of an airplane looking out at thunderstorms knows that this
>>     picture was probably taken somewhere near the base of the clouds,
>>     ie: approx. 10,000'..  At 30,000' you are normally looking down @
>>     80% of thunderstorms in the southwest with the other 20% somewhere
>>     higher.  This pictures definately doesn't reflect a view of
>>     thunderstorms @ 30,000'.  (sorry)
>>
>>     --- On *Fri, 7/10/09, dean may /<deanvmay at verizon.net
>>     <http://us.mc451..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deanvmay@verizon.net>>/*
>>     wrote:
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>>         From: dean may <deanvmay at verizon.net
>>         <http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deanvmay@verizon.net>>
>>         Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic?
>>         To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list"
>>         <reflector at tvbf.org
>>         <http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector@tvbf.org>>
>>         Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 6:52 PM
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>>         Impressive!  30,000' in a velocity!!!
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