REFLECTOR: Velocity video
doug.holub at tx.rr.com
doug.holub at tx.rr.com
Fri Feb 1 09:51:57 CST 2008
Wow. Mr. Rutan encourages all EZ owners to test for deep stall above 8000 feet while wearing a parachute. If the airplane does enter a deep stall, bye-bye airplane.
Doug Holub
---- Brett Ferrell <reflector at velocityxl.com> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> I don't think it generally is recoverable, that's the problem. Here are a couple of old articles on Deep Stall, offered in the name of education/safety (fair use) since they're on my website without permission.
>
> http://www.velocityxl.com/Downloads/CP76/CP76-P2.htm - Canard Pusher 76 reprint "The Latest on Deep Stall"
> http://www.velocityxl.com/Downloads/VelocityDeepStall.pdf - Deep Stall Solution - July 1991 Sport Aviation
>
> Brett
>
>
> > -------Original Message-------
> > From: Dave Philipsen <velocity at davebiz.com>
> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Velocity video
> > Sent: 01 Feb '08 00:48
> >
> > John Dibble wrote:
> > >
> > > I believe
> > > that for the stall test, had I not pulled back on the stick and instead used my trim
> > > button, I would have achieved a lower speed where the main wing would have stalled and
> > > the canard kept flying (deep stall). This is just theory as I'm not willing to try
> > > it. This is my reason for recommending never to trim for level flight at a speed less
> > > than 80 kn.
> > >
> > > John
> > Interesting theory indeed. 'Makes sense too. I would also think that
> > as long as the canard is still flying (not stalled) you should be able
> > to recover from the 'deep stall'. Like you, I don't think I'd want to
> > experiment with that though.
> >
> > I have, on occasion, used your technique when I'm coming in a bit too
> > high on final (above the glideslope). That is, I'll pull back on the
> > stick and cut the throttle slowing down close to stall speed. It drops
> > pretty fast when I do that. I think the nose up attitude and the CS prop
> > at fine pitch provides a lot of drag. But I always pull out of that
> > condition (I guess on the backside of the 'power curve') and get back to
> > somewhere around 75-80 kts as I approach the runway. Usually I have to
> > put in a little power too else I slip below the glideslope.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Philipsen
> > Velocity STD-FG
> > N83DP
> >
> >
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