REFLECTOR: prop vibration t est

Johnny Thompson 14az at mysprocketmail.com
Wed Apr 30 14:50:41 CDT 2008


I have not heard from anyone so still do not know which test you will do. I 
do not have equipment to strain test but do have the vibration test which 
allows you know where on the prop to make changes.  In the early stages of 
development we make adjustments static and, depending on which company you 
are working with, run ups done on a testing bed, not the aircraft. An 
Aircraft will always contribute to the vibrations thus you are measuring the 
combined vibration which are aircraft specific. This is the final stage, 
sounds like you are there. If the developer is at this point then you have a 
very simple test.  The pickup probe can be placed above the forward engine 
bearing and  no other needed. Some Helicopters we place up to 6 probes 
within the airframe since the blade changes pitch, twist, flex, ect 
continually during rotation. I would be glad to talk to anyone about this.

Johnny


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Michalk" <michalk at awpi.com>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: prop vibration t est


> Johnny,
>
> Would this testing include strain gauge testing, or is that not what is
> considered vibration testing?  Does one instrument the engine, or does
> the prop get instrumented as well?  If the engine is smooth (no bad
> vibes), then does that mean the prop is also under no vibration?
>
> Milton Mersky wrote:
>> Johnny Thompson:
>>
>> Will you work with us at Vari Prop in establishing criteria for a
>> vibration test?
>>
>> WE are prepared to start right away.
>>
>> What do we do first
>>
>> Milt
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>     *From:* Johnny Thompson <mailto:14az at mysprocketmail.com>
>>     *To:* Jim Agnew <mailto:Jim_Agnew_2 at yahoo.com> ; Velocity Aircraft
>>     Owners and Builders list <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>>     *Sent:* Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:30 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: prop vibration test
>>
>>     Milt and all
>>
>>     I have been involved in vibration testing on airplanes and
>>     helicopters for over 35 years.  It is a very simple and safe
>>     process that yields excellent results. Testing is done mostly in
>>     R&D while smoothing the vibrations caused by props and blades is a
>>     normal everyday occurrence that can be done in a couple of hours.
>>     I still have  my vibration testing equipment and can perform test
>>     on any type of engine and prop. Correct that, can't test the
>>     Rocket Velocity.  This prop manufacture probably has his own
>>     testing equipment.    Johnny Thompson   14az at mysprocketmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         *From:* Jim Agnew <mailto:jim_agnew_2 at yahoo.com>
>>         *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>>         <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>>         *Sent:* Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:27 PM
>>         *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: prop vibration test
>>
>>         Milt,
>>
>>         I thought Sam DaSilva said that he would test it on his V
>>         (IO-360 180HP no/Counterweights, and I could on my V (IO-360
>>         200HP w/Counterweights) since we are in side by side hangers.
>>         Sam has more V test time than anyone I know going back to
>>         original Danny testing.
>>
>>         Jim
>>
>>         James F. Agnew
>>         Jim_Agnew_2 at Yahoo.Com <mailto:Jim_Agnew_2 at Yahoo.Com>
>>         Tampa, FL
>>         Velocity 173 Elite Aircraft Completed & Flying
>>
>>
>>         ----- Original Message ----
>>         From: Milton Mersky <miltonm at airmail.net>
>>         To: Velocity Reflector <reflector at awpi.com>
>>         Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:39:01 AM
>>         Subject: REFLECTOR: prop vibration test
>>
>>         Larry Morgan, owner of Vari Prop, told me he is interested in
>>         securing
>>         vibration tests with his prop on a Velo.?
>>
>>         Who in our group has the knowledge to offer expertise in an
>>         acceptable
>>         method of  testing.
>>
>>         Who in our group will offer a Velo.
>>
>>         Larry Morgan will supply the prop.
>>
>>         Milt
>>
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