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Sun Dec 17 12:52:53 CST 2006

-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Derrick
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:08 AM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: STICK & RUDDER

Laurance,

    I wasn't questioning that there is a Va speed for the Velocity.  

    You said "You should never use full rudder unless you are at or
below maneuvering speed.  If you are faster you are exceeding allowable
structural loads."   

    I think your wrong about rudder deflection speed.   Show us where a
limit on rudder usage is stated...

Scott

Laurence Coen wrote: 
Yes really!!!  Va (maneuvering speed) is a structural limit every as
much as Vne.  All airplanes have a maneuvering speed including the
Velocity and it should be in your pilot manual.

Larry Coen
N136LC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Scott Derrick <mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net>  
To: Velocity Aircraft <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>  Owners and Builders
list 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: STICK & RUDDER

Really???  I've never heard that before.  I rarely use rudder except in
the pattern , decent, and playing tag with the mesa's.  I've never
really paid attention to how much rudder I use but to increase my
descent rate I usually use a lot. 

I haven't seen this restriction in the Pilot Manual?

Scott

Laurence Coen wrote: 
Tom,

You should never use full rudder unless you are at or below maneuvering
speed.  If you are faster you are exceeding allowable structural loads.

Larry Coen
N136LC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tom Martino <mailto:tmartino at troubleshooter.com>  
To: Velocity List <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>  
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 4:49 PM
Subject: REFLECTOR: STICK & RUDDER

At first I thought it was just the weather, or maybe an uneven fuel load
. but I can no longer deny it.  My plane still yaws a bit to the left
(which means I have to touch the right rudder to make it fly perfectly
straight).  So I have the following questions and would like those with
more experience to answer:
1.       The ball is only a tiny bit out of center and I can get speeds
of 200 KTAS or more . so should I leave the damn thing alone? 
2.       The plane is almost perfect ... so should I make it fly
perfectly? 
I should also make these observations:
--I already shimmed the wings with washers several hours ago - which
helped a lot . but there is still a slight yaw,
--I also shimmed the right rudder out a bit (right after I did the wing)
. it seemed near perfect . but still a tiny yaw.
--When I am at higher speeds (170+ TKAS) and make a hard right turn with
full right rudder . the right rudder will flutter a bit.
--When turning left at the same speed . no flutter at all.  Is this
because I shimmed the right rudder out a bit to begin with?
ANY AND ALL COMMENTS APPRECIATED.
I have taken a lot of time to make this an exceptional bird . am I going
too far?  
Tom Martino

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