REFLECTOR: LIGHTSPEED IGNITION PROBLEM

davedent at comcast.net davedent at comcast.net
Sun Feb 27 19:04:03 CST 2005


The other system was called ElecroAir by Jeff Rose
If you are using a four cylinder give Emag a call.  They have them now for the Lyc. 4 cyl. engines only for now. 
Dave

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> >From a safety standpoint, I would think two dissimilar units 
> (manufacturers) would be the best protection. I don't know how these units 
> breakdown and there should be some information available but where? It also 
> would seem wise to have a health monitor circuit within the ignition module 
> to warn of impending problems, something NASA and the rest of the aerospace 
> industry are clamoring for. In the case of two similar units you could say 
> that the odds are against both breaking down in close proximity in time, 
> but people spend Millions of dollars in Vegas every year just to prove the 
> odds are wrong. Now what was the name of the other company again? 
> 
> Ed 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message] 
> > From: Scott Derrick 
> > To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list 
> > Date: 2/27/2005 10:19:20 AM 
> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: LIGHTSPEED IGNITION PROBLEM 
> > 
> > As a counter point, I have a LSI, crank mounted pickup. 
> > 
> > Been reliable for 400+ hours and works great.. Mine is mounted on teh 
> > firewall, cabin side on small rubber standoffs. 
> > 
> > Scott 
> > 
> > davedent at comcast.net wrote: 
> > 
> > > We had two of these moduls fail on us on our Cozy IV> We found that 
> > > first the halograph pickups failed at the aluminum plate that spins 
> > > with the magnet. Very poorly made. Then we found the computer moduls 
> > > fail with vibration because the components are board mounted. We had 
> > > two components on the boards fail. Look right in the middle of the 
> > > large coil on the board. You will find it burnt. As well smell it to 
> > > see if you can smell anything burnt. This is how I found mine bad. 
> > > They replaced them with no problem. They are not just made to take 
> > > some of the punishment that they get. 
> > > Also check for a short in the coax cable going to the coils. 
> > > Disconnect at the coil and check across the B&C connector. We have 
> > > lost every one of our cables. If you have one plug wire come loose 
> > > during flight it can and will blow a coil or even two. It tries 
> > > to jump the plug and it can blow the computer or the coils. If a 
> > > direct short happens it should blow a fuse before blowing the 
> > > computer. So look for a loose wire to the plugs as well. With his 
> > > system there are way to many things that can go wrong. And shut down 
> > > the whole system. 
> > > I would never buy another one with the problems we have had. I found 
> > > the Jeff Rose unit gave me no problems at all in my ten years plus 
> > > that I flew them. But he don't make them for the six cylinders and 
> > > don't sell them at all anymore. 
> > > I will be testing the prototype for the Emag on the six cylinder units 
> > > sometime this summer. Hopefully they work as good as they say. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > 
> > > > No matter where I plug it in, left or right ... it trips the 
> > > breaker. And when 
> > > > I plug the good one into the other side ... it does NOT trip the 
> > > breaker. So, 
> > > > it must be the module. 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________ 
> > > > 
> > > > From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org on behalf of Randy Wharton 
> > > > Sent: Sat 2/26/2005 1:08 PM 
> > > > To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list' 
> > > > Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: LIGHTSPEED IGNITION PROBLEM 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The first thing I would check, Tom, is the breaker. Maybe the 
> > > ignition module is 
> > > > ok. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________ 
> > > > 
> > > > From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org 
> > > [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf 
> > > > Of Tom Martino 
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 3:06 PM 
> > > &! gt; To: reflector at www.tvbf.org 
> > > > Subject: REFLECTOR: LIGHTSPEED IGNITION PROBLEM 
> > > > 
> > > > My first major squawk came yesterday while coming in for the 
> > > final landing of 
> > > > the day. The left Lightspeed ignition module simply popped a 
> > > breaker. 
> > > > 
> > > > I began troubleshooting today and verified that there are no 
> > > shorts or problems 
> > > > with the wiring. And before this the engine purred perfectly. 
> > > > 
> > > > Its this simple: when I plug in the left module -- it pops the 
> > > breaker. 
> > > > 
> > > > This concerns me a bit, since the modules don't have but a dozen 
> > > hours on them. 
> > > > Has anyone ever had such a failure? For no apparent reason? 
> > > > 
> > > > I looked inside the module and it is as clean as a whistle ... 
> > > no burnt traces, 
> > > > no foreign objects, no bare wires, etc. 
> > > > 
> > > > I had them mounted on the cabin side of the firewall, just above 
> > > the main spar. 
> > > > They were not too cold, nor too hot ... and I! don't believe 
> > > there is enough 
> > > > vibration there to affect the solid state components .. 
> > > > 
> > > > BUT HEY ... SOMETHING WENT WRONG!!?? 
> > > > 
> > > > Any ideas. I will be contacting Klaus. 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
> > > 
> > > Subject: 
> > > RE: REFLECTOR: LIGHTSPEED IGNITION PROBLEM 
> > > From: 
> > > "Tom Martino" 
> > > Date: 
> > > Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:41:23 +0000 
> > > To: 
> > > "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" 
> > > 
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