REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids Technologies-EFIS
KeithHallsten
reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:53:48 -0800
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Chuck,
Yes, I've been looking at that one. It's not clear if they have any =
brackets to mount it under a wing or on the canard. I may have to call =
them. Anyone else have a pitot tube for less than $350?
Keith=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chuck Jensen=20
To: 'reflector@tvbf.org'=20
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:36 PM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids Technologies-EFIS
Keith,
I don't know if its a good price but Dynon =
(http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/pitotfeatures.html) has a $199 unit =
on their site that also does angle of attach (apparently by measuring =
the pressure differential between an angled opening and the pressure in =
the main pitot) but that's only with their EFIS. I didn't figure out if =
the pitot works without their EFIS. If it does, is $199 half way =
reasonable for a heated pitot?
If I get any other feedback on the GRT unit from other than the =
Reflector, I'll pass it along.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On =
Behalf Of KeithHallsten
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:16 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids Technologies-EFIS
Chuck,
I'm also looking for some "reports from the field" on the GRT EFIS. =
I have been checking their website pretty regularly the last few months, =
and they note that 5 of their systems are now flying, so it's still =
pretty early. They are shipping them as fast as they come off the line, =
so a lot more will be flying by Oshkosh time.
Unless I hear some horror stories in the next few months, I'll =
probably be putting a two-display GRT system in my panel along with =
their EIS 6000 engine monitor. I'm thinking of a dedicated primary =
flight display for the upper, and a multiple-mode display for the lower. =
That would provide moving map and graphical engine parameters on the =
lower display under normal conditions, and a backup for the primary =
flight display if the upper one ever goes belly-up. The handheld and =
panel-mount GPSs would provide backup moving map, and the EIS would =
provide digital engine parameters. The other backups would be a =
mechanical airspeed and altimeter, and the new turn coordinator from =
TruTrak. This looks to be a pretty fault-tolerant no-gyro system at a =
very reasonable cost. Any critics?
The only real shock lately has been the enormous recent price spike =
in pitot tubes. Anyone got a line on a reasonable-priced heated pitot?
Keith Hallsten, XLFG
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Chuck Jensen=20
To: 'reflector@tvbf.org'=20
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids Technologies-EFIS
With correct web-link and in non-annoying smaller print.=20
Has anyone had some experience with Grand Rapids =
(http://www.grtavionics.com) new EFIS unit. I understand several have =
flow the GRT EIS system and think well of it and the company, but of =
course, the jump to a full blow EFIS is a quantum leap. On GRT's web =
site, under installation, there was a photo of an installation in =
Velocity N31VC, which, with Ronnie Brown's detective work, I understand =
belonged to Rob at RJohn15183@aol.com, but I haven't been able to =
contact him by email to see if the unit was installed before he sold the =
plane or who's currently flying it....and what their impressions were.
In short, anyone have any feedback about GRT's EFIS or know =
anyone I could contact to discuss the same.
Chuck
27GV, Panel under (re)construction
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chuck,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, I've been looking at that =
one. It's not=20
clear if they have any brackets to mount it under a wing or on the =
canard. =20
I may have to call them. Anyone else have a pitot tube for less =
than=20
$350?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith</FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dcjensen@dts9000.com =
href=3D"mailto:cjensen@dts9000.com">Chuck=20
Jensen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
href=3D"mailto:'reflector@tvbf.org'">'reflector@tvbf.org'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 28, 2004 =
7:36=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: REFLECTOR:Grand =
Rapids=20
Technologies-EFIS</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D984462003-29032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Keith,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D984462003-29032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D984462003-29032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
don't know if its a good price but Dynon (<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/pitotfeatures.html">http://www.=
dynonavionics.com/docs/pitotfeatures.html</A>) has=20
a $199 unit on their site that also does angle of attach (apparently =
by=20
measuring the pressure differential between an angled opening and =
the=20
pressure in the main pitot) but that's only with their EFIS. I =
didn't=20
figure out if the pitot works without their EFIS. If it does, is =
$199=20
half way reasonable for a heated pitot?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D984462003-29032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D984462003-29032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>If I=20
get any other feedback on the GRT unit from other than the Reflector, =
I'll=20
pass it along.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D984462003-29032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D984462003-29032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org=20
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>KeithHallsten<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:16=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
REFLECTOR:Grand=20
Rapids Technologies-EFIS<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chuck,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm also looking for some "reports =
from the=20
field" on the GRT EFIS. I have been checking their website =
pretty=20
regularly the last few months, and they note that 5 of their systems =
are now=20
flying, so it's still pretty early. They are shipping them as =
fast as=20
they come off the line, so a lot more will be flying by Oshkosh =
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Unless I hear some horror stories =
in the next=20
few months, I'll probably be putting a two-display GRT system in my =
panel=20
along with their EIS 6000 engine monitor. I'm thinking of a =
dedicated=20
primary flight display for the upper, and a multiple-mode display =
for the=20
lower. That would provide moving map and graphical engine =
parameters=20
on the lower display under normal conditions, and a backup for the =
primary=20
flight display if the upper one ever goes belly-up. The =
handheld and=20
panel-mount GPSs would provide backup moving map, and the EIS would =
provide=20
digital engine parameters. The other backups would be a =
mechanical=20
airspeed and altimeter, and the new turn coordinator from =
TruTrak. =20
This looks to be a pretty fault-tolerant no-gyro system at a very =
reasonable=20
cost. Any critics?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only real shock lately has been =
the=20
enormous recent price spike in pitot tubes. Anyone got a line =
on a=20
reasonable-priced heated pitot?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith Hallsten, XLFG</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dcjensen@dts9000.com =
href=3D"mailto:cjensen@dts9000.com">Chuck=20
Jensen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
href=3D"mailto:'reflector@tvbf.org'">'reflector@tvbf.org'</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 28, =
2004 11:48=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids=20
Technologies-EFIS</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D093403519-28032004><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>With correct web-link and in =
non-annoying smaller=20
print. </FONT></SPAN><BR></FONT></FONT><SPAN=20
class=3D703010119-28032004><BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2>Has anyone had=20
some experience with Grand Rapids (</FONT></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.grtavionics.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>http://www.grtavionics.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>) new=20
EFIS unit. I understand several have flow the GRT EIS system =
and=20
think well of it and the company, but of course, the jump to a =
full blow=20
EFIS is a quantum leap. On GRT's web site, under=20
<U>installation</U>, there was a photo of an installation in =
Velocity=20
N31VC, which, with Ronnie Brown's detective work, I understand =
belonged to=20
Rob at </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:RJohn15183@aol.com"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>RJohn15183@aol.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>, but I=20
haven't been able to contact him by email to see if the unit was =
installed=20
before he sold the plane or who's currently flying it....and =
what=20
their impressions were.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><SPAN class=3D703010119-28032004><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D703010119-28032004><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>In short,=20
anyone have any feedback about GRT's EFIS or know anyone I could =
contact=20
to discuss the same.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D703010119-28032004><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D703010119-28032004><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D703010119-28032004><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>27GV, Panel=20
under=20
=
(re)construction</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT=
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