REFLECTOR: VG's and vortilons

[Greg Poole]

Hi Dave,

After receiving my kit I eventually found my way to Sebastian where Scott
Swing showed me they had rough fabricated vortilons instead of supplying the
sheet from which builders fabricate their own. Scott kindly supplied me with
same gratis but then VG's came into popularity and I was informed that
vortilons were no longer required.

Perhaps Scott Baker might elaborate on the current factory line on this as
there does appear a surprising amount of conjecture on the topic of
vortilons, VG's and trailing edge fences?  I am all for hearing of the
experiences of those flying with the changing position/shape of the trailing
edge fences...VERY interesting (if not a little wierd looking).

Greg in Sydney.
STD RG E

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Teter" <ezaviator@truetechsys.com>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Trailing Edge Fences


> Ronnie,
> Can you give the name of the individual at the factory that said vortilons
> were not needed?
> If you read this in a document published by the factory, can you site that
> document?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronnie Brown" <romott@adelphia.net>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Trailing Edge Fences
>
>
> > The factory said the Vortilons would not be needed if the VG's were
> > installed.  I did not install Vortilons and my 173 Elite flies and
handles
> > great at low speeds.
> >
> > However, the Vortilons do not replace the VG's for lowering
landing/stall
> > speeds.  Or for improving the low speed handling.
> >
> > I do not recall the history of the Vortilons - why they were required by
> > Burt.
> >
> > Ronnie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott" <scott@tnstaafl.net>
> > To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Trailing Edge Fences
> >
> >
> > | My plane flies completely differently with or without VG's.
> > |
> > | I of course have the Vortilons installed in addition to the VG's.  I
> > gained
> > | 300 ft per minute climb rate with the VG's, also reduced my
landing/take
> > | off  speed by 5 knots.
> > |
> > | I'm quite amazed at the level of misunderstanding in regards to
> Vortilons
> > | and VG's with this list?
> > |
> > | Scott
> > |
> > | At 06:19 PM 1/24/2004, you wrote:
> > | >jack,
> > | >
> > | > > I have a standard RG Elite and only have the VGs (i.e., no
> vortilons).
> > The
> > | > > aircraft handles very well even at very low landing speeds.
> > | > > ...I would disagree and say that you don't need the vortilons if
you
> > | > > have the VGs installed.
> > | >
> > | >Your ovservations agree with others I've heard. In other words, if
you
> > have
> > | >the vortilons, you don't need the VGs.
> > | >
> > | >Dave Black
> > | >Shortwing RG
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