REFLECTOR:Accident/incident

Alex Balic reflector@tvbf.org
Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:06:55 -0600


Mike,

Did the fork hit the prop?
Just curious.....

Alex

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Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 11:43 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident


Hello velocity people,

I just thought I would fill you guys in on the accident/incident reported on
Velocity N173DT a couple of days ago.  N173DT was built by myself and three
other guys and first flown on July 29th, 1997.  It is a 173RG longwing with
the standard clamshell door.  The plane was flown for 5 years and then sold
to Paul Gold from Florida last September.  Paul was the pilot during the
landing at Boca Raton that did not go well.  According to Paul, the landing
was normal up to the point where the nose fork casting separated from the
nose gear strut.  Apparently, the casting broke apart as the nose gear was
lowered.  Paul believes the casting may have had a crack or something that
caused it to prematurely fail.  The aircraft is repairable and no injuries
occurred.  The only reason a report was filed on this incident is that the
news media was at the airport, along with the NTSB and FAA.  According to
Paul, the NTSB was the driving force on the report, not him.

Regards,

Michael Pollock
Builder/Partner Velocity N173DT
EAA #411862
EAA Chapter #1246
Technical Counselor #4357
Based at TKI / NE Dallas Metroplex


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Today's Topics:

   1. Accident/incident (steve korney)
   2. Re: Accident/incident (HYTEC45@aol.com)
   3. Re: Accident/incident (NMFlyer1@aol.com)
   4. Experimental Fly-in (John Dibble)
   5. Re: Accident/incident (KeithHallsten)

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Message: 1
From: "steve korney" <s_korney@hotmail.com>
To: Reflector@tvbf.org
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:47:03 +0000
Subject: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org

Lets all be careful out there...



IDENTIFICATION
  Regis#: 173DT        Make/Model: VELO      Description: VELOCITY
  Date: 02/26/2004     Time: 2304

  Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
  Damage: Minor

LOCATION
  City: BOCA RATON                  State: FL   Country: US

DESCRIPTION
  ACFT WHILE LANDING ON RWY 23, THE NOSE TIRE FAILED. ACFT COMPLETED LANDING
  ON NOSE WHEEL ONLY. BOCA RATON, FL

INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
                 # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
                 # Pass:   2     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
                 # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:

WEATHER: BCT SPECI 262304Z 26008KT 9SM FEW060 24/13 A2988



OTHER DATA
  Activity: Unknown      Phase: Landing      Operation: General Aviation

  Departed: BOCA RATON, FL  BCT         Dep Date:    Dep. Time:
  Destination:                          Flt Plan: VFR          Wx Briefing:
U
  Last Radio Cont: SHORT FINAL RWY 23
  Last Clearance: CLRD LND RWY 23

  FAA FSDO: FT LAUDERDALE, FL  (SO17)             Entry date: 02/27/2004

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------

N-number                       : N173DT
Aircraft Serial Number         : 001
Aircraft Manufacturer          : POLLOCK MICHAEL D
         Model                 : VELOCITY 173RG
Engine   Manufacturer          : LYCOMING
         Model                 : I0360 SER A&C
Aircraft Year                  : 1997
Owner Name                     : REGISTRATION PENDING
Owner Address                  : 15082 TALL OAK AVE
                                 DELRAY BEACH, FL, 33446-9510
Type of Owner                  : Individual
Registration Date              : Not Specified
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental
Approved Operations            : Amateur Built





Best... Steve

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Message: 2
From: HYTEC45@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:17:45 EST
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org


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Wonder why something like this would even be reported.

TEC

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Message: 3
From: NMFlyer1@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:01:29 EST
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
To: reflector@tvbf.org
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Good Q, Tech.  keep in mind, if there are no injuries, and no "significant
damage", Theese things do not need to be reported.

As The Manager here at Mid Valley Airpark, I have found that many people do
not know what does and does not need to be reported (this includes by
airport
managers).  Sometimes the pilot doesn't have control over what is reported,
even if it does Not need to be (someone in the tower or airport calls the
FAA...
etc). If you do have a say, and noone is injured and the damage is (in your
mind) not significant.... Do Not Report it!.. It only adds to the paperwork
hell
we all live in.  :)


 Best,  Kurt Winker.

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:58:43 -0600
From: John Dibble <aminetech@bluefrog.com>
Organization: Aminetech, Inc.
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR:Experimental Fly-in
Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org

For anyone near central MS there is an experimental fly-in tomorrow at
Yazoo City (87I).  Probably won't be a big event, but some place to fly
to on what looks to be a great day.

John



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Message: 5
From: "KeithHallsten" <KeithHallsten@quiknet.com>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:55:03 -0800
Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org

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I note the last clearance "Cleared to Land, Rwy 23".  Probably the tower =
reported it.

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  Wonder why something like this would even be reported.

  TEC
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