REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
Dave Teter
reflector@tvbf.org
Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:28:02 -0600
Ronnie,
Ditto on both counts for my 173 FG Elite. I replaced both the fork and the
casting two years
ago on mine at the recommendation of Brendan. Never a moments problem and
now have
the piece of mind that it won't (shouldn't) ever pose of probem as the old
style(s) did.
Dave
127DH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronnie Brown" <romott@adelphia.net>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
> Thanks for the report, Mike.
>
> Do you know if the nose wheel fork was original or the newer, thicker
> casting?
>
> I think several of the older, thin castings have broken in the past. The
> factory suggested that I replace mine a couple of years ago.
>
> They also suggested that Jim White replace his FG nose wheel fork on his
> much older standard (DMO178) during his last factory annual, last fall.
>
> Ronnie Brown
> 173 Elite RG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Pollock" <m.pollock@verizon.net>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 12:42 PM
> Subject: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
>
>
> | Hello velocity people,
> |
> | I just thought I would fill you guys in on the accident/incident
reported
> on
> | Velocity N173DT a couple of days ago. N173DT was built by myself and
> three
> | other guys and first flown on July 29th, 1997. It is a 173RG longwing
> with
> | the standard clamshell door. The plane was flown for 5 years and then
> sold
> | to Paul Gold from Florida last September. Paul was the pilot during the
> | landing at Boca Raton that did not go well. According to Paul, the
> landing
> | was normal up to the point where the nose fork casting separated from
the
> | nose gear strut. Apparently, the casting broke apart as the nose gear
was
> | lowered. Paul believes the casting may have had a crack or something
that
> | caused it to prematurely fail. The aircraft is repairable and no
injuries
> | occurred. The only reason a report was filed on this incident is that
the
> | news media was at the airport, along with the NTSB and FAA. According
to
> | Paul, the NTSB was the driving force on the report, not him.
> |
> | Regards,
> |
> | Michael Pollock
> | Builder/Partner Velocity N173DT
> | EAA #411862
> | EAA Chapter #1246
> | Technical Counselor #4357
> | Based at TKI / NE Dallas Metroplex
> |
> |
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> | 1. Accident/incident (steve korney)
> | 2. Re: Accident/incident (HYTEC45@aol.com)
> | 3. Re: Accident/incident (NMFlyer1@aol.com)
> | 4. Experimental Fly-in (John Dibble)
> | 5. Re: Accident/incident (KeithHallsten)
> |
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> |
> | Message: 1
> | From: "steve korney" <s_korney@hotmail.com>
> | To: Reflector@tvbf.org
> | Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:47:03 +0000
> | Subject: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
> | Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
> |
> | Lets all be careful out there...
> |
> |
> |
> | IDENTIFICATION
> | Regis#: 173DT Make/Model: VELO Description: VELOCITY
> | Date: 02/26/2004 Time: 2304
> |
> | Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing:
N
> | Damage: Minor
> |
> | LOCATION
> | City: BOCA RATON State: FL Country: US
> |
> | DESCRIPTION
> | ACFT WHILE LANDING ON RWY 23, THE NOSE TIRE FAILED. ACFT COMPLETED
> LANDING
> | ON NOSE WHEEL ONLY. BOCA RATON, FL
> |
> | INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> | # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
> Unk:
> | # Pass: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
> Unk:
> | # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
> Unk:
> |
> | WEATHER: BCT SPECI 262304Z 26008KT 9SM FEW060 24/13 A2988
> |
> |
> |
> | OTHER DATA
> | Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: General Aviation
> |
> | Departed: BOCA RATON, FL BCT Dep Date: Dep. Time:
> | Destination: Flt Plan: VFR Wx
> Briefing:
> | U
> | Last Radio Cont: SHORT FINAL RWY 23
> | Last Clearance: CLRD LND RWY 23
> |
> | FAA FSDO: FT LAUDERDALE, FL (SO17) Entry date: 02/27/2004
> |
>
| --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> | ---------------------------------------
> |
> | N-number : N173DT
> | Aircraft Serial Number : 001
> | Aircraft Manufacturer : POLLOCK MICHAEL D
> | Model : VELOCITY 173RG
> | Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING
> | Model : I0360 SER A&C
> | Aircraft Year : 1997
> | Owner Name : REGISTRATION PENDING
> | Owner Address : 15082 TALL OAK AVE
> | DELRAY BEACH, FL, 33446-9510
> | Type of Owner : Individual
> | Registration Date : Not Specified
> | Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental
> | Approved Operations : Amateur Built
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | Best... Steve
> |
> | _________________________________________________________________
> | Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday.
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> |
> |
> | --__--__--
> |
> | Message: 2
> | From: HYTEC45@aol.com
> | Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:17:45 EST
> | Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
> | To: reflector@tvbf.org
> | Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
> |
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> | Wonder why something like this would even be reported.
> |
> | TEC
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> | <DIV>Wonder why something like this would even be reported.</DIV>
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> |
> | Message: 3
> | From: NMFlyer1@aol.com
> | Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:01:29 EST
> | Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
> | To: reflector@tvbf.org
> | Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
> |
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> | Good Q, Tech. keep in mind, if there are no injuries, and no
"significant
> | damage", Theese things do not need to be reported.
> |
> | As The Manager here at Mid Valley Airpark, I have found that many people
> do
> | not know what does and does not need to be reported (this includes by
> | airport
> | managers). Sometimes the pilot doesn't have control over what is
> reported,
> | even if it does Not need to be (someone in the tower or airport calls
the
> | FAA...
> | etc). If you do have a say, and noone is injured and the damage is (in
> your
> | mind) not significant.... Do Not Report it!.. It only adds to the
> paperwork
> | hell
> | we all live in. :)
> |
> |
> | Best, Kurt Winker.
> |
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> | <DIV>Good Q, Tech. keep in mind, if there are no injuries, and no
> | "sig=
> | nificant damage", Theese things do not need to be reported. </DIV>
> | <DIV> </DIV>
> | <DIV>As The Manager here at Mid Valley Airpark, I have found that many
> | peopl=
> | e do not know what does and does not need to be reported (this includes
by
> | a=
> | irport managers). Sometimes the pilot doesn't have control over
what
> | i=
> | s reported, even if it does Not need to be (someone in the tower or
> | airport=20=
> | calls the FAA... etc). If you do have a say, and noone is injured and
the
> | da=
> | mage is (in your mind) not significant.... Do Not Report it!.. It only
> | adds=20=
> | to the paperwork hell we all live in. :) </DIV>
> | <DIV> </DIV>
> | <DIV> </DIV>
> | <DIV> Best, Kurt Winker. </DIV></BODY></HTML>
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> |
> | Message: 4
> | Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:58:43 -0600
> | From: John Dibble <aminetech@bluefrog.com>
> | Organization: Aminetech, Inc.
> | To: reflector@tvbf.org
> | Subject: REFLECTOR:Experimental Fly-in
> | Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
> |
> | For anyone near central MS there is an experimental fly-in tomorrow at
> | Yazoo City (87I). Probably won't be a big event, but some place to fly
> | to on what looks to be a great day.
> |
> | John
> |
> |
> |
> | --__--__--
> |
> | Message: 5
> | From: "KeithHallsten" <KeithHallsten@quiknet.com>
> | To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> | Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
> | Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:55:03 -0800
> | Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
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> | I note the last clearance "Cleared to Land, Rwy 23". Probably the tower
=
> | reported it.
> |
> | ----- Original Message -----=20
> | From: HYTEC45@aol.com=20
> | To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
> | Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:17 AM
> | Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
> |
> |
> | Wonder why something like this would even be reported.
> |
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> | <DIV>I note the last clearance "Cleared to Land, Rwy 23". Probably
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> | tower reported it.</DIV>
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> | <DIV>Wonder why something like this would even be reported.</DIV>
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