REFLECTOR:Mag Timing Slipped?

dean fitzbag reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:22:59 -0600


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C3EEEE.4F813200
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That's about the degree of seperation from one bolt hole to another.  =
Maybe, the reference point is misplaced do to the flange behind the prop =
being attached to the wrong bolt holes.=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jim Sower<mailto:canarder@frontiernet.net>=20
  To: reflector@tvbf.org<mailto:reflector@tvbf.org>=20
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 8:55 AM
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Mag Timing Slipped?


  It's a puzzlement sure enough.=20
  <... Is it reasonable to think that the points could wear enough to =
cause the timing to move that much ...>=20
  The points don't wear measurably, but the rubbing block does.  Rubbing =
block wear causes point gap to decrease, dwell to increase, timing to =
retard, so that wouldn't seem to be the problem.=20
  Interesting phenomenon ... Be sure and let us know when you track it =
down ... Jim S.=20
  Ronnie Brown wrote:=20

    I am doing my first condition inspection on my 173 Elite RG and all =
is looking great except: When I checked my Slick mag timing, I found it =
at 32 degrees BTDC.  Since our Cessna 172 in 10 years never had the =
timing reset except for the 500 hour mandatory inspections of the Bendix =
dual mag, this has me scratching my head.  The timing on the Jeff Rose =
has not changed. The retaining bolts were tight, an internal inspection =
of the mag reveals nothing (however, I have not checked the internal =
timing yet) , and I KNOW the timing was set correctly (25 degrees BTDC) =
on this Lycoming IO360.  I had a low static RPM - 2100 rpms - so we =
checked everything before changing the prop.  Any worn parts in the =
gearing would cause the timing to be more retarded. Is it reasonable to =
think that the points could wear enough to cause the timing to move that =
much? Or any other ideas? THANKSRonnie Brown
  --=20
  Jim Sower ... Destiny's Plaything=20
  Crossville, TN; Chapter 5=20
  Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T=20
   =20

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C3EEEE.4F813200
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY id=3DMailContainerBody=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
COLOR: #000000; BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; PADDING-TOP: 15px; FONT-STYLE: =
normal; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; =
BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none; TEXT-DECORATION: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: =
none"=20
bgColor=3D#ffffff leftMargin=3D0 topMargin=3D0 acc_role=3D"text" =
CanvasTabStop=3D"true"=20
name=3D"Compose message area"><!--[gte IE 5]><?xml:namespace =
prefix=3D"v" /><?xml:namespace prefix=3D"o" /><![endif]-->
<DIV>
<DIV>That's about the degree of seperation from one bolt hole to=20
another.&nbsp;&nbsp;Maybe, the&nbsp;reference point is misplaced do to=20
the&nbsp;flange behind the prop being attached to the wrong bolt=20
holes.&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmailto:canarder@frontiernet.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:canarder@frontiernet.net">Jim Sower</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmailto:reflector@tvbf.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 09, 2004 =
8:55=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: REFLECTOR:Mag =
Timing=20
  Slipped?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>It's a puzzlement sure enough. <BR>&lt;... Is it =
reasonable to=20
  think that the points could wear enough to cause the timing to move =
that much=20
  ...&gt; <BR>The points don't wear measurably, but the rubbing block=20
  does.&nbsp; Rubbing block wear causes point gap to decrease, dwell to=20
  increase, timing to retard, so that wouldn't seem to be the problem.=20
  <BR>Interesting phenomenon ... Be sure and let us know when you track =
it down=20
  ... Jim S.=20
  <P>Ronnie Brown wrote:=20
  <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">
    <STYLE></STYLE>
    <FONT size=3D-1>I am doing my first condition inspection on my 173 =
Elite RG=20
    and all is looking great except:</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=3D-1>When I =
checked my=20
    Slick mag timing, I found it at 32 degrees BTDC.&nbsp; Since our =
Cessna 172=20
    in 10 years never had the timing reset except for the 500 hour =
mandatory=20
    inspections of the Bendix dual mag, this has me scratching my =
head.&nbsp;=20
    The timing on the Jeff Rose has not changed.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT =
size=3D-1>The=20
    retaining bolts were tight, an internal inspection of the mag =
reveals=20
    nothing (however, I have not checked the internal timing yet) , and =
I KNOW=20
    the timing was set correctly (25 degrees BTDC) on this Lycoming =
IO360.&nbsp;=20
    I had a low static RPM - 2100 rpms - so we checked everything before =

    changing the prop.&nbsp; Any worn parts in the gearing would cause =
the=20
    timing to be more retarded.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=3D-1>Is it =
reasonable to=20
    think that the points could wear enough to cause the timing to move =
that=20
    much?</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=3D-1>Or any other =
ideas?</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT=20
    size=3D-1>THANKS</FONT><FONT size=3D-1>Ronnie =
Brown</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <P>-- <BR>Jim Sower ... Destiny's Plaything <BR>Crossville, TN; =
Chapter 5=20
  <BR>Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T <BR>&nbsp;=20
</P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C3EEEE.4F813200--