REFLECTOR:Why not test NPG+?

Al Gietzen reflector@tvbf.org
Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:38:34 -0700


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Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Why not test NPG+?

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Physics, Shmysics.

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I've got a special motor that's been running in my garage for over two =
years
now.  It is connected to a water pump that lifts the water a couple of =
feet.
The gravity then pulls the water down, creating a siphoning effect, that
drives a small turbine generator that in turn powers the special motor.

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Works great.  No external connections.  I use the excess power to run =
the
web servers.

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At last - a perpetual motion machine!  And they said it couldn't be =
done.

Now all we need is to devise a gravity flow cooling system for our =
engines.

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I guess in the virtual world of the web, servers run on virtual power.  =
Is
that a virtually powered motor running the pump?

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Al

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Al Gietzen
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:31 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Why not test NPG+?

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 This pump has all ceramic seals and is bench-tested at 2,000 plus =
hours.
And, since it's electric, it won't rob too much HP.   I know, I know.  =
What
if my 110 AMP electrical system fails?   I've got to devise another
scientific test for that.  You guys want to take all the fun out of =
this.
Just in case, I'm taking glider lessons.

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Dennis - do you keep a cord attached to provide power to the pump:-)?

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Otherwise, if it took 2 hp to drive a pump directly, it will take about =
3 hp
to drive the alternator to make the electricity to drive the pump to =
move
the same amount of coolant as if the belt drove the pump directly. It's =
all
about physics.

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Anyway; let's get these things in the air so you and Kurt and I can get
together and make a lot of noise.

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Al

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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I've got a =
special motor
that's been running in my garage for over two years now.&nbsp; It is =
connected
to a water pump that lifts the water a couple of feet.&nbsp; The gravity =
then
pulls the water down, creating a siphoning effect, that&nbsp;drives a =
small
turbine generator that in turn powers the special =
motor.</span></font></p>

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color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Works =
great.&nbsp; No
external connections.&nbsp; I use the excess power to run the web =
servers.</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>At last &#8211; a perpetual =
motion
machine!&nbsp; And they said it couldn&#8217;t be =
done.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Now all we need is to devise a =
gravity
flow cooling system for our engines.</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>I guess in the virtual world of =
the web,
servers run on virtual power. &nbsp;Is that a virtually powered motor =
running
the pump?</span></font></p>

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[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
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</span></b>Al Gietzen<br>
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;This pump has all ceramic seals and is
bench-tested at 2,000 plus hours.&nbsp; And, since it's electric, it =
won't rob
too much HP.&nbsp;&nbsp; I know, I know.&nbsp; What if my 110 AMP =
electrical
system fails?&nbsp;&nbsp; I've got to devise another scientific test for
that.&nbsp; You guys want to take all the fun out of this.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Just in
case, I'm taking glider lessons.</span></font></p>

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color=3Dblue
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Dennis
&#8211; do you keep a cord attached to provide power to the =
pump</span></font><font
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:blue'>J</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DVerdana><span
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Otherwise,
if it took 2 hp to drive a pump directly, it will take about 3 hp to =
drive the
alternator to make the electricity to drive the pump to move the same =
amount of
coolant as if the belt drove the pump directly. It&#8217;s all about =
physics.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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color=3Dblue
face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Anyway;
let&#8217;s get these things in the air so you and Kurt and I can get =
together
and make a lot of noise.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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