REFLECTOR:Termites, fumigation and fiberglass

Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:46:02 -0600

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Hey, you spend all this time on a plane ... why would you ever even take =
a chance?  It just isn't worth it!

-----Original Message-----
From: Hiroo Umeno [mailto:humeno@microsoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:34 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Termites, fumigation and fiberglass

I have to preface my response with "I personally have no first hand =
experiences with this." But...

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I'd be careful about what they mean by "no effects on fiberglass =
components".  My gut tells me that they mean finished fiberglass =
components like your Corvette.  I would be nervous about the chemicals =
leaving residues on the cloth and altering the adhesion characteristics. =
 The glass is pretty non-reactive but if the stuff leaves residues, it =
may interfere with resin penetration, adhesion, structural strength, =
etc.

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If I were you, I would take the cloth and resin out of the garage and =
keep them at friend's house, just to be safe.

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Hiroo

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-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org] On =
Behalf Of Phil@hdmnet.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:41 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR:Termites, fumigation and fiberglass

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We're going have our home tented and fumigated for termites using Vikane =
gas by Dow Chemical.  It apparently is a common gas used in California.  =
Our garage/hangar will be tented as well, in which rests our beloved =
Velocity, cloth and resin.  Dow tells me: "If the fumigator applies =
Vikane according to label directions, there will be no effect to the =
fiberglass components in your garage."  Apparently, the stuff is "non =
reactive" but penetrates like Hell to go after those critters in the =
wood.  The termite folks think it will be fine.  The factory feels there =
should not be a problem but leans in my direction that it might be =
better to remove everything before the gas is released.

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Any of you fine builders have experience with this issue or any =
thoughts?  I will appreciate the wisdom of the collective.  (It's too =
late, I've been assimilated, resistance was "futile.")

=20

Phil Hooper

Harvest Development & Media

714/693-8745 (voice)

714/777-0134 (fax)

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class=3D395294321-24092003>Hey,=20
you spend all this time on a plane ... why would you ever even take a=20
chance?&nbsp; It just isn't worth it!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Hiroo Umeno=20
  [mailto:humeno@microsoft.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 24, =
2003=20
  3:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B> reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
  REFLECTOR:Termites, fumigation and fiberglass<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have to =
preface my=20
  response with &#8220;I personally have no first hand experiences with =
this.&#8221;=20
  But&#8230;</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I&#8217;d =
be careful about=20
  what they mean by &#8220;no effects on fiberglass components&#8221;. =
&nbsp;My gut tells me=20
  that they mean finished fiberglass components like your =
Corvette.&nbsp; I=20
  would be nervous about the chemicals leaving residues on the cloth and =

altering the adhesion characteristics.&nbsp; The glass is pretty =
non-reactive=20
 but if the stuff leaves residues, it may interfere with resin =
penetration,=20
 adhesion, structural strength, etc.
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">&nbsp;
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">If I were =
you, I=20
 would take the cloth and resin out of the garage and keep them at =
friend&#8217;s=20
 house, just to be safe.
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">&nbsp;
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Hiroo
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">&nbsp;
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original=20
 Message----- From:=20
 reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org] <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of =
Phil@hdmnet.com <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: <FONT=20
 face=3DTahoma>Wednesday, September =
24,=20
 2003=20
 1:41=20
 PM<SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: =
reflector@tvbf.org <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: REFLECTOR:Termites, =
fumigation=20
 and fiberglass
 &nbsp;
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">We&#8217;re going have =
our home tented=20
 and fumigated for termites using Vikane gas by Dow Chemical. &nbsp;It=20
 apparently is a common gas used in California.&nbsp; Our garage/hangar =
will be=20
 tented as well, in which rests our beloved Velocity, cloth and resin.=20
 &nbsp;Dow tells me: &#8220;If the fumigator applies Vikane according =
to label=20
 directions, there will be no effect to the fiberglass components in =
your=20
 garage.&#8221;&nbsp; Apparently, the stuff is &#8220;non =
reactive&#8221; but penetrates like=20
 Hell to go after those critters in the wood.&nbsp; The termite folks =
think it=20
 will be fine.&nbsp; The factory feels there should not be a problem =
but leans=20
 in my direction that it might be better to remove everything before =
the gas is=20
 released.
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Any of you fine builders =
have=20
 experience with this issue or any thoughts?&nbsp; I will appreciate =
the wisdom=20
 of the collective.&nbsp; (It&#8217;s too late, I&#8217;ve been =
assimilated, resistance was=20
 &#8220;futile.&#8221;)
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Phil =
Hooper
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Harvest Development =
&amp;=20
 Media
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">714/693-8745=20
 (voice)
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">714/777-0134=20
 (fax)
 <SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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