I'm pretty sure I couldn't. With about 425 lbs I loose elevator at about 65. I 'm an 80 over the fence kinda guy. I have the VG's, but no gap seals, aft fences, nose gear landing lights, twin battery's & EI's, etc... I can't keep up!! Scott At 02:24 AM 11/26/2003, you wrote: >Jim, >You may want to calibrate your air-speed indicator. Anybody else landng at >60 knots with 400lb.+ in thr front seats? >Odd