REFLECTOR:V8 Vacuum system
Wayne
reflector@tvbf.org
Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:40:28 -0500
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Re: REFLECTOR:V8 Vacuum systemWhere did you get the external oil pump =
you are using with the Gilmer pulleys? Is it a pressure pump or a =
scavenge pump?
I'm using two oil/ water heat exchangers in parallel (less pressure =
drop) that are much more effective (delta T of 15 -25 degrees) than the =
Setrab or generic oil coolers (delta T of 4 or 5 degrees) I tried =
before. This is not a problem for me because my radiator was too big =
before (top water temp of 195 degrees). Now it is removing oil heat =
also. I'm using a remote oil filter mount also and -10 hose everywhere =
I can.
The Soob seems to need a third or more of its cooling in the oil.
I'm thinking of using the drain in the oil pan as a pickup and the port =
I welded into the side of the pan as a return. The pump would run off =
the pulley on the prop shaft where I previously had a vacuum pump. This =
separate loop scavenge pump would use some power but wouldn't rob =
pressure from my lubrication system.=20
Presently I am limited in speed by oil temperature (except for short =
sprints).
Wayne
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Alex Balic=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:36 PM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:V8 Vacuum system
Wayne- what does your cooling system consist of now? I have an adapter =
from canton racing that puts the oil filter on the firewall, and I am =
running a B&M oil cooler that has -8 fittings already brazed to it, =
will run -10 hose to and from everything.... are you thinking of using a =
dry sump system now?
Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On =
Behalf Of Wayne
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:59 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:V8 Vacuum system
Hi Dennis,
Do you have anymore info on your dry sump oil pump? I'm planning a =
separate cooling loop for the SVX. All the piping on my present system =
robs about 15 - 20 pounds of oil pressure from the lube system.
Wayne Owens 173FG 3.3 litre Soob 75 hours.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dennis Martin=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:V8 Vacuum system
How about gilmer pulleys? (Uses "tractor belts" with teeth). I've =
got two gilmers, one for my dry sump oil system, another for the =
alternator. Perfect alignment is required, but there's no slippage. =
IMHO, as good as serpentine.
Dennis Martin
Serpentine belts are to V-Belts pretty much what alternators are =
to generators IMO.
Al Gietzen wrote:
Yo; Jim!
< The main thing that fails is the drive belt>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Where did you get the external oil =
pump you=20
are using with the Gilmer pulleys? Is it a pressure pump or a scavenge=20
pump?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using two oil/ water heat =
exchangers in=20
parallel (less pressure drop) that are much more effective (delta T of =
15 -25=20
degrees) than the Setrab or generic oil coolers (delta T of 4 or 5 =
degrees) I tried before. This is not a problem for me because my =
radiator was=20
too big before (top water temp of 195 degrees). Now it is removing oil =
heat=20
also. I'm using a remote oil filter mount also and -10 hose=20
everywhere I can.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Soob seems to need a third or =
more of its=20
cooling in the oil.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking of using the drain =
in the oil=20
pan as a pickup and the port I welded into the side of the pan as a=20
return. The pump would run off the pulley on the prop shaft where =
I=20
previously had a vacuum pump. This separate loop scavenge =
pump=20
would use some power but wouldn't rob pressure from my lubrication =
system.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Presently I am limited in speed =
by oil=20
temperature (except for short sprints).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wayne</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 10, 2003 =
11:36=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: REFLECTOR:V8 =
Vacuum=20
system</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D986053404-11112003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Wayne- what does your cooling system consist of now? I have =
an adapter=20
from canton racing that puts the oil filter on the firewall, and I am =
running=20
a B&M oil cooler that has -8 fittings already brazed to it, =
will run=20
-10 hose to and from everything.... are you thinking of using a dry =
sump=20
system now?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D986053404-11112003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D986053404-11112003><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2>Alex</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org=20
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Wayne<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
Monday, November 10, 2003 6:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: REFLECTOR:V8 Vacuum=20
system<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Dennis,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you have anymore info on your =
dry sump oil=20
pump? I'm planning a separate cooling loop for the SVX. All =
the piping=20
on my present system robs about 15 - 20 pounds of oil pressure from =
the lube=20
system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wayne Owens 173FG 3.3 litre =
Soob 75=20
hours.</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddmartin@cougar.netutah.net=20
href=3D"mailto:dmartin@cougar.netutah.net">Dennis Martin</A> =
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title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 09, =
2003 11:45=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: REFLECTOR:V8 =
Vacuum=20
system</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>How about gilmer pulleys? (Uses "tractor belts" with =
teeth).=20
I've got two gilmers, one for my dry sump oil system, another for =
the=20
alternator. Perfect alignment is required, but there's no=20
slippage. IMHO, as good as serpentine.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Dennis Martin</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">Serpentine belts are to =
V-Belts pretty=20
much what alternators are to generators IMO.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">Al Gietzen wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
color=3D#0000ff>Yo; Jim!</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
color=3D#0000ff><</FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D-1> The=20
main thing that fails is the drive=20
belt></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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