REFLECTOR:Rotary 20B dyno Test

J.P. Brooks reflector@tvbf.org
Sat, 10 May 2003 14:18:52 -0700


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Great news!
Best of luck.... seriously.
JP Brooks
DeltaHawk, Inc.


At 01:32 PM 5/9/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Rock on, rotory guy.  Very impressive results, and I'm envious of how 
>silky smooth it's going to be when you get airborne.
>
>Dennis Martin
>Elite FG Chevy V-6
>
>>
>>I've completed dynamometer testing of my 3-rotor rotary engine.  Overall; 
>>I'm very pleased.  Great performance from a normally aspirated engine 
>>where the all-up installation weighs maybe 45 lbs more than a 200 hp 
>>Lyc.  It should give me about 270 HP at my max operating point of 2900 
>>prop speed.  The following is a post to the rotary engine list (including 
>>a response from a rotary Guru), and a plot of sea level torque and 
>>HP.  More info will eventually be available on my website.
>>
>>Al Gietzen
>>
>>POWER AND TORQUE
>> >
>> > Wide open throttle power and torque curves were run after adjusting
>> > the mixture correction table and the timing.  Mixture setting was
>> > approximately for maximum power.  Data was initially gathered up to
>> > about 6000 RPM, but looking at the data showed that the torque curve
>> > was still flat, and hp increasing, so subsequent runs were made to
>> > 7000 RPM. Still no break in the hp curve.  Given that the 2.17 redrive
>> > ratio limits engine RPM to about 6300 (Prop @ 2900), there was no
>> > point in pushing things further.
>> >
>> > The torque curve is distinguished by it's flatness; varying only by 10
>> > ft-lbs from 210 ft-lbs at 4000 rpm to a peak of 220 ft-lbs at 5000 -
>> > nearly constant from 4800 to 6800.  The 220 ft-lbs is not
>> > extraordinary, and could be improved by 9.7 compression rotors vs the
>> > stock 9.0 rotors that are in the engine.  Mazda's data indicates about
>> > a 4% increase in power with 9.7 vs 9.0 at 5000 rpm.  It may also
>> > improve some as the engine wears in - this is an engine with only a
>> > couple of hours of running since overhaul.
>>
>>The 20B is going to make one hell of an aircraft engine.
>>I can't wait to see one of these engines in an air race.
>>The Lycoming weenies are going to wonder where the severe head wind came 
>>from :) And this is only 87 HP per rotor at the benchmark RPM of 6000.
>>
>>Paul Lamar
>>
>>
>>
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Great news!<br>
Best of luck.... seriously.<br>
JP Brooks<br>
DeltaHawk, Inc.<br><br>
<br>
At 01:32 PM 5/9/2003 -0600, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Rock on, rotory guy.&nbsp; Very
impressive results, and I'm envious of how silky smooth it's going to be
when you get airborne.<br><br>
Dennis Martin<br>
Elite FG Chevy V-6<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="Verdana" size=2 color="#0000FF">&nbsp;</font><br>
<font size=2 color="#0000FF">I've completed dynamometer testing of my
3-rotor rotary engine.&nbsp; Overall; I'm very pleased.&nbsp; Great
performance from a normally aspirated engine where the all-up
installation weighs maybe 45 lbs more than a 200 hp Lyc.&nbsp; It should
give me about 270 HP at my max operating point of 2900 prop speed.&nbsp;
The following is a post to the rotary engine list (including a response
from a rotary Guru), and a plot of sea level torque and HP.&nbsp; More
info will eventually be available on my website.</font><br>
<font face="Verdana" size=2 color="#0000FF">&nbsp;</font><br>
<font face="Verdana" size=2 color="#0000FF">Al Gietzen</font><br>
<font face="Verdana" size=2 color="#0000FF">&nbsp;</font><br>
<font size=2>POWER AND TORQUE</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt;</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; Wide open throttle power and torque curves were run
after adjusting</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; the mixture correction table and the timing.&nbsp;
Mixture setting was</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; approximately for maximum power.&nbsp; Data was
initially gathered up to</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; about 6000 RPM, but looking at the data showed that the
torque curve</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; was still flat, and hp increasing, so subsequent runs
were made to</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; 7000 RPM. Still no break in the hp curve.&nbsp; Given
that the 2.17 redrive</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; ratio limits engine RPM to about 6300 (Prop @ 2900),
there was no</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; point in pushing things further.</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt;</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; The torque curve is distinguished by it's flatness;
varying only by 10</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; ft-lbs from 210 ft-lbs at 4000 rpm to a peak of 220
ft-lbs at 5000 -</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; nearly constant from 4800 to 6800.&nbsp; The 220 ft-lbs
is not</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; extraordinary, and could be improved by 9.7 compression
rotors vs the</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; stock 9.0 rotors that are in the engine.&nbsp; Mazda's
data indicates about</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; a 4% increase in power with 9.7 vs 9.0 at 5000
rpm.&nbsp; It may also</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; improve some as the engine wears in - this is an engine
with only a</font><br>
<font size=2>&gt; couple of hours of running since overhaul.</font><br>
<font size=2>&nbsp;</font><br>
<font size=2>The 20B is going to make one hell of an aircraft
engine.</font><br>
<font size=2>I can't wait to see one of these engines in an air
race.</font><br>
<font size=2>The Lycoming weenies are going to wonder where the severe
head wind came from :) And this is only 87 HP per rotor at the benchmark
RPM of 6000.</font><br>
<font size=2>&nbsp;</font><br>
<font size=2>Paul Lamar</font><br>
<font size=2>&nbsp;</font><br>
<font face="Verdana" size=2 color="#0000FF">&nbsp;</font><br><br>
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