REFLECTOR: Nose gear mod?....was, accident/incident report
Herb Sanders
reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:43:35 -0500
I'd have to have some help to get in, I guess!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Nose gear mod?....was, accident/incident report
> But what if you forget to lower your nose gear before taking off?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> Behalf Of Herb Sanders
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:12 PM
> To: reflector@tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Nose gear mod?....was, accident/incident report
>
>
> Chris, Although getting rid of the nose gear should gain a few knots, it
was
> not primarily a speed mod. The project I bought is a top loader and I
could
> not stand the look of the step ladder hanging down. My wife and I do not
hop
> as well as we did a few years ago so hopping up on the strake was not too
> appealing. The electric nose lift allows the plane to kneel and entry
should
> be easy. Looks neat too with the gear retracted. We have had LongEZs for
the
> last 20+ years so it looks natural to us.
> Regards, Herb
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Barber" <CBarber@texasattorney.net>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:43 AM
> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Nose gear mod?....was, accident/incident report
>
>
> > Now that is kinda interesting. I don't really see me doing it (ok, I
know
> I
> > won't), but I have always wondered how much extra speed may be gained by
> > retracting only the nose gear. I know in the Cozy, you might as well
> since
> > it is already installed to allow the plane to "graze", but is there a
> > real/significant performance difference? I can't imagine it would be
> worth
> > the extra complexity just for the nose....but to once again steal from
> > Dennis Miller........I could be wrong <g>
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Christopher Barber
> > Attorney and Counselor at Law
> > 11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
> > Suite 103
> > Houston, Texas 77089-4755
> > 281-464-LAWS (5297)
> > 281-754-4168 (Fax)
> >
> > CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
> > www.TexasAttorney.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> > Behalf Of Herb Sanders
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:09 AM
> > To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> >
> >
> > Wayne, I have an unused nose strut, fork, wheel,tire etc for the std fg
> > Velo. I put a Cozy strut/fork/tire with electric nose lift on my fixed
> gear
> > project.
> > Herb Sanders
> > BTW, have you thought about going rg/elec nose lift instead of going
back
> > with the standard strut?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wayne Owens" <wamowens@bellsouth.net>
> > To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> >
> >
> > > Well after 60 some hours I just broke off the crummy nose gear strut
on
> my
> > > fixed gear bird.
> > > I would never have recovered the extra 1000 hours build time in the
15
> to
> > > 20 minutes per flight I would save.
> > > I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.
> > > Wayne
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <doug.holub@att.net>
> > > To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:01 PM
> > > Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > >
> > >
> > > > Amen. It's not worth 10 knots to me. Plus, and I hope I don't hurt
> > > anyone's
> > > > feelings here, it seems like half of the KPCs are RG related. I'm
not
> > > saying
> > > > it's not a safe system, I'm just saying that it would double the
> > > complexity of
> > > > my airplane.
> > > >
> > > > Doug Holub
> > > > > Andy,
> > > > >
> > > > > I hate to admit it, but I feel the same way as to my fixed gear
SE.
> > > Yeah,
> > > > > sometimes I have a tinge of reflection of "gee, should I have
opted
> > for
> > > the
> > > > > retract", but it ALWAYS passes (even withOUT this kind of report).
> > > > >
> > > > > All the best,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > > Christopher Barber
> > > > > Attorney and Counselor at Law
> > > > > 11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
> > > > > Suite 103
> > > > > Houston, Texas 77089-4755
> > > > > 281-464-LAWS (5297)
> > > > > 281-754-4168 (Fax)
> > > > >
> > > > > CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
> > > > > www.TexasAttorney.net
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Andy Millin [mailto:amillin@net-link.net]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:27 PM
> > > > > To: Christopher Barber
> > > > > Subject: FW: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You know, every time I see one of these I think I'm the smarter
one
> > for
> > > > > getting the fixed gear. I'll always be there when it is cured in
> > place.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't want to make light of this guys accident, but ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Good for us.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> > > > > Behalf Of Ronnie Brown
> > > >
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:20 PM
> > > > > To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Durn, he just started flying his new bird -
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/Velocity%20RG%20Elite_Schiferl.asp#TopO
> > > > > fPage
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "steve korney" <s_korney@hotmail.com>
> > > > > To: <Reflector@tvbf.org>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:08 PM
> > > > > Subject: REFLECTOR:accident/incident report
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IDENTIFICATION
> > > > > > Regis#: 942XX Make/Model: EXP Description:
> > EXP-VELOCITY
> > > > > 173/RG
> > > > > > Date: 06/01/2003 Time: 1600
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N
> > > Missing: N
> > > > > > Damage:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LOCATION
> > > > > > City: WATERTOWN State: WI Country: US
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DESCRIPTION
> > > > > > AIRCRAFT LANDED GEAR UP ON RUNWAY 26 AT WATERTOWN MUNICIPAL
> > AIRPORT
> > > > > (RYV)
> > > > > > DURING AIRCRAFT CHECKOUT FLIGHT. WATERTOWN, WI.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> > > > > > # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min:
> 0
> > > > > Unk:
> > > > > > # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min:
> 0
> > > > > Unk:
> > > > > > # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min:
> 0
> > > > > Unk:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WEATHER: KUNU METAR 011555Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR 13/01 A3011
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OTHER DATA
> > > > > > Activity: Training Phase: Landing Operation: General
> > > Aviation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Departed: (RYV) WATERTOWN, WI Dep Date: 06/01/2003
> Dep.
> > > Time:
> > > > > > 1545
> > > > > > Destination: (UNU) JUNEAU, WI Flt Plan: NONE
Wx
> > > > > Briefing:
> > > > > > N
> > > > > > Last Radio Cont:
> > > > > > Last Clearance:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FAA FSDO: MILWAUKEE, WI (GL13) Entry date:
> > > 06/02/2003
> > > > > >
> > > > > > N-number Database Search Result
> > > > > > Last Database Update: Tue May 6 12:41:12 2003
> > > > > > To print registration information, check the checkbox for each
> > > > > registration
> > > > > > to be printed and click on "Retrieve Selected Entries" at the
> bottom
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > list.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > ------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > N-number : N942XX
> > > >
> > > > > > Aircraft Serial Number : DMO369
> > > > > > Aircraft Manufacturer : SCHIFERL JOSEPH J
> > > > > > Model : VELOCITY 173/RG-E
> > > > > > Aircraft Year :
> > > > > > Owner Name : SCHIFERL JOSEPH J
> > > > > > Owner Address : N3104 US HIGHWAY 12 # B
> > > > > > FORT ATKINSON, WI, 53538-9778
> > > > > > Registration Date : 15-Apr-1998
> > > > > > Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's be careful out there...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best... Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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