REFLECTOR:Low fuel light
Scott Derrick
reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:31:19 -0600
I think you guys are fixing something that ain't broke. But as long as
you have the time go for it.
Scott
John Dibble wrote:
> Yes, I agree that the pressure will be equal, under static conditions.
> The problem is keeping the pressure equal under dynamic conditions like
> climb, descent, and leaking caps. If connected directly to the manifold,
> the sump pressure will change faster than the tanks because there is
> very little air space in the sump.
>
> John
>
> Chuck Jensen wrote:
>
>> John,At the risk of interpreting what you wrote, I believe you are
>> concuring with my earlier post; that being, if the tanks and sump were
>> all connected to the same vent-line (a manifold if you like), then the
>> pressure in both tanks and sump, by definition, must be equal. In
>> your case, you were proposing to vent the sump to each of the tanks,
>> though this might allow water/air traps, depending on configuration.
>> I would be more comfortable with each being vented to a collection
>> manifold.With a common vent manifold, it really matters little whether
>> the atmosphere above all the tanks/sump is slightly positive or
>> negative; the draw of the fuel pump will overwhelm any slight negative
>> pressure that could hypothetically be present. And, since fuel
>> responds to gravity, I would think it would dependably flow to the
>> sump from both tanks and the sump would always be 100% full. After
>> all, how could a pocket of air exist in a vented sump???(that'll start
>> another round!) There would be a vertical column of fuel in the sump
>> vent line that rises up to the equal height of the fuel in the
>> strakes. This fuel column would need to let any air introduced to the
>> sump (ie. sharp descent which uncovers the tank(s) outlet) ,pass out
>> the vent. Of course, if the strake outlets are uncovered and fuel is
>> drawn by the engine from the sump, the fuel column in the vent line
>> would empty into the sump. When level flight resumed, the air in the
>> sump would be pushed out the evacuated sump vent line by the ample
>> fuel flowing from both tanks. Just to be sure, if there was any
>> question of the ability of air to vent through a fuel filled 3/8" vent
>> line (and Al's earlier posting indicates there probably isn't), a 1/2"
>> vent line could be used instead to rise vertically from the sump to
>> the common vent manifold, which is connected to the other two tank
>> vents.And, this configuration certainly couldn't siphon from the sump
>> tank, as experienced by SB during his test flight (when the backward
>> facing sump vent drew a vacuum and started a siphon from the sump
>> overboard), since siphoning depends on a hi/lo differential and there
>> is none because all of the tanks are the same pressure. No more sump
>> sloshing. No more concern about a leaky fuel tank cap. No more
>> unbalanced tank feeds from different pressures in the tank strakes
>> from variation in pressurization from the vent line or leaky fuel
>> cap......unless the plane is unbalanced in cruised, but that's a
>> different problem and different post. Simple, no?Chuck
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