REFLECTOR:Determining AFT CG Limit

John Dibble reflector@tvbf.org
Sun, 07 Dec 2003 10:36:14 -0600


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OK, I need to have deep stall defined.  Is a deep stall anytime the main 
wing stalls, or is it a condition where the main wing stalls before the 
canard?

John

Scott Baker wrote:

> Yes.
> SB
>
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>     From: John Dibble <mailto:aminetech@bluefrog.com>
>     To: reflector@tvbf.org <mailto:reflector@tvbf.org>
>     Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:02 PM
>     Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Determining AFT CG Limit
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>     Scott, Are you saying that in the case of "too far aft", that,
>     without corrective action, the canard will continue to rise and
>     stall the main wing?
>
>     John
>
>     Scott Baker wrote:
>
>>     VERY IMPORTANT NOTE>  If, on the other hand, at the onset of the
>>     stall you find the canard rising - and you are pushing on the
>>     stick to maintain the constant climb attitude - you are in the
>>     dreaded "too far aft" cg range ... immediately apply full forward
>>     elevator and full power, lean forward, and take thyself back to
>>     the airport and (while adding 5 knots to your normal approach
>>     speed) ... land and shift some weight forward ... and then go do
>>     it again.
>>     SB
>>

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OK, I need to have deep stall defined.&nbsp; Is a deep stall anytime the
main wing stalls, or is it a condition where the main wing stalls
before the canard?<br>
<br>
John<br>
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Scott Baker wrote:<br>
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Scott, Are you saying that in the case of "too far aft", that, without
corrective action, the canard will continue to rise and stall the main
wing?<br>
    <br>
John<br>
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      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">VERY IMPORTANT NOTE&gt;&nbsp; If, on
the other hand, at the onset of the stall you find the canard <em>rising</em>
- and you are pushing on the stick to maintain the constant climb
attitude - you are in the dreaded "too far aft" cg range ...
immediately apply full forward elevator and full power, lean
forward,&nbsp;and take thyself back to the airport and (while adding 5 knots
to your normal approach speed) ... land and shift some weight forward
... and then go do it again.</font></div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">SB</font></div>
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