REFLECTOR:Nose Gear - Preliminary accident report

Ronnie Brown reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 5 Aug 2003 20:51:38 -0400


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But shouldn't the hydraulics cause the nose gear to go over center.  The =
gas spring is only there for the emergency gear extension. But you're =
correct, the limit switches definitely need to be adjusted correctly and =
they need to work!

Pure speculation: broken fork? or perhaps a hard landing on the nose?  =
One thing is guaranteed, you won't make your best landing at Oshkosh!!!  =
Too much stuff going on!

Ronnie
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Alexander Balic=20
  To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:25 PM
  Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Nose Gear - Preliminary accident report


  it is important that the "down" micro switch doesn't make until the =
over center bar is locked- mine needed adjustment- at least you sill =
know if it is locked or not- might not be the cause, but I am guessing =
that it probably is- if the gas spring dies, then the bar will not go =
over center.......
    -----Original Message-----
    From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On =
Behalf Of Ronnie Brown
    Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:13 PM
    To: reflector@tvbf.org
    Subject: REFLECTOR:Nose Gear - Preliminary accident report


    <!--StartFragment-->IDENTIFICATION
      Regis#: 440DC        Make/Model: EXP      Description: EXP- =
VELOCITY XLRG
      Date: 08/02/2003     Time: 0045

      Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    =
Missing: N
      Damage: Minor

    LOCATION
      City: OSHKOSH   State: WI   Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
      ACFT LANDED RWY 18R AT OSHKOSH, WI (OSH). ON LANDING ACFT NOSE =
WHEEL=20
      COLLAPSED. OSHKOSH, WI

    INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
                     # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0  =
   Unk:   =20
                     # Pass:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0  =
   Unk:   =20
                     # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0  =
   Unk:   =20

    WEATHER: METAR KOSH 012353Z 00000KT 10SM CLR 25/16 A2984

    OTHER DATA
      Activity: Pleasure      Phase: Landing      Operation: General =
Aviation

      Departed: OSHKOSH, WI                 Dep Date: 08/02/2003   Dep. =
Time: 0045
      Destination: UNKN                     Flt Plan: UNK          Wx =
Briefing: U
      Last Radio Cont:=20
      Last Clearance: CLRD TO LND

      FAA FSDO: MILWAUKEE, WI  (GL13)                 Entry date: =
08/04/2003=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>But shouldn't the hydraulics cause the nose gear to =
go over=20
center.&nbsp; The gas spring is only there for the emergency gear =
extension. But=20
you're correct, the limit switches definitely need to be adjusted =
correctly and=20
they need to work!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Pure speculation: broken fork? or perhaps a hard =
landing on=20
the nose?&nbsp; One thing is guaranteed, you won't make your best =
landing at=20
Oshkosh!!!&nbsp; Too much stuff going on!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ronnie</FONT></DIV>
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Gear -=20
  Preliminary accident report</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D261132300-06082003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>it=20
  is important that the "down" micro switch doesn't make until the over =
center=20
  bar is locked- mine needed adjustment- at least you sill know if it is =
locked=20
  or not- might not be the cause, but I am guessing that it probably is- =
if the=20
  gas spring dies, then the bar will not go over=20
  center.......</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org=20
    [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ronnie=20
    Brown<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =

    reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:Nose Gear - =
Preliminary=20
    accident report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;IDENTIFICATION<BR>&nbsp; Regis#:=20
    440DC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Make/Model:=20
    EXP&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Description: EXP- VELOCITY =
XLRG<BR>&nbsp;=20
    Date: 08/02/2003&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Time: 0045<BR><BR>&nbsp; =
Event=20
    Type: Incident&nbsp;&nbsp; Highest Injury: =
None&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mid=20
    Air: N&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Missing: N<BR>&nbsp; Damage:=20
    Minor<BR><BR>LOCATION<BR>&nbsp; City: OSHKOSH&nbsp;&nbsp; State:=20
    WI&nbsp;&nbsp; Country: US<BR><BR>DESCRIPTION<BR>&nbsp; ACFT LANDED =
RWY 18R=20
    AT OSHKOSH, WI (OSH). ON LANDING ACFT NOSE WHEEL <BR>&nbsp; =
COLLAPSED.=20
    OSHKOSH, WI<BR><BR>INJURY DATA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Total=20
    Fatal:&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    =
0<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    # Crew:&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fat:&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ser:&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

    Min:&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unk:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    =
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    # Pass:&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fat:&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ser:&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

    Min:&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unk:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    =
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    # Grnd:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Fat:&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ser:&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

    Min:&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unk:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    <BR><BR>WEATHER: METAR KOSH 012353Z 00000KT 10SM CLR 25/16=20
    A2984<BR><BR>OTHER DATA<BR>&nbsp; Activity:=20
    Pleasure&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Phase:=20
    Landing&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Operation: General=20
    Aviation<BR><BR>&nbsp; Departed: OSHKOSH,=20
    =
WI&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Dep Date: 08/02/2003&nbsp;&nbsp; Dep. Time: 0045<BR>&nbsp; =
Destination:=20
    =
UNKN&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Flt Plan: UNK&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Wx=20
    Briefing: U<BR>&nbsp; Last Radio Cont: <BR>&nbsp; Last Clearance: =
CLRD TO=20
    LND<BR><BR>&nbsp; FAA FSDO: MILWAUKEE, WI&nbsp;=20
    =
(GL13)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Entry date: 08/04/2003 =
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