REFLECTOR: REFLECTOR - first flight of Subaru EG-33 VelocitySTD RG

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Wed Oct 22 08:46:47 CDT 2014


Another consideration would be if your canard was Dynamic Wings (Alan
Shaw), I recall Scott Swing suggesting that there is a difference in the
use of the incidence gauge and that you may need to add the universal shim
(tongue depressor) to the rear.  Check with the factory on their current
thinking if you have the Alan Shaw canard.


Jerry Brainard
Jerry at JLBEnt.com


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VelocitySTD RG
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Kevin,

Mine is also about 3/4" up at cruise.  When solo, my stall is a mush which
I feel means I'm right at the aft cg limit.  I recommend you do the stall
testing before changing the incidence.

John

On 10/21/2014 5:45 PM, via Reflector wrote:
Burrall, thanks for the input. I seem to have about 3/4" TE up in cruise
with the CG in the middle of the first flight test range. This is what led
me to the decision to lower my incidence a bit.

Kevin Metzler


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VelocitySTD RG


Hi Kevin,
Congratulations on your first flights! An amazing accomplishment.
Be very careful about decreasing the canard incidence...could cause bad
stall habits for the main wing.   What is the elevator position relative to
the canard when you run out of trim?
In cruise it should be in trail or slightly trailing edge up.  If the
elevator is way up or all the way up then maybe there is too much canard
incidence.  If it is in trail or slightly up  you don't need less
incidence, you simply need more trim pressure.   Make darn sure your CG is
where it is supposed to be as well.
Hope this helps
Burrall
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VelocitySTD RG

Way to go Kevin! That's fantastic news. Keep us posted on the flight tests!


Reiff Lorenz

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Hello group,
    Pleased to announce first flight of my Subaru EG-33  Velocity STD RG on
Saturday, Oct 4th. I have just over 3 hours on it at the moment and am
working out a few bugs with the gear box cooling, but other than that, all
systems are working well. I have been able to achieve 165kts indicated at
8500 ft, but run out of down trim. I am adjusting my canard about 1/2 - 2/3
bubble negative from where it was originally set. I would like to know if
any other builders have have similar issues with canard incidence.

Kevin Metzler
N133SV

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