REFLECTOR: Continental TSIO-550G

Fri Oct 10 04:50:32 CDT 2014

Is there a good reason we're getting these unsolicited ads from this vendor?

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570 hours since new

comes with all accessories

Soft prop strike (ran out of fuel)

$30,000 

Walter Bagdasarian
Allstate Aircraft Salvage
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El Cajon, Ca 92020
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Garmin 340
Garmin SL-40
Garmin 530
Garmin 330
Garmin 430
GI-106A indicator

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:17:57 -0500
From: Rene Dugas via Reflector  <reflector at tvbf.org>
To: Ron N VelocityXLFG  <velocityxl at fastmail.fm>, Velocity Aircraft
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Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Naca Hose  heater
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Ron,  I was attempting  the same but just don't get the temps you folks 
get.  I duct tape off  about 80 percent of the cooler front face in about a 
minute if it's  cold.  One can't really see it and it removes even quicker.

Not  elegant.  I this the circulation of air from cabin to cooler via bilge

blower fan back into cabin is a better choice.  If I plumb it I will  cover 
the NACA and blow cabin air through the cooler and overboard in  summer.
Best. 

Sent from Rene's iPad. A pleasure.  Go  Apple.

> On Oct 8, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Ron N VelocityXLFG via  Reflector 
<reflector at tvbf.org> wrote:
> 
> Now as winter is  at our door step here in Chicago.   We had snow on 
Saturday. I have  been trying a idea that seems to be 
> working out . I am in the early  stages of testing this but so far I like 
what I feel.  My thought is the  Naca front heater scoop
> is what many say is a ram air scoop. I  think  is to large. So to keep it 
short I am working on blocking off much  of the scoop to see if I can get 
> more heat transfer by allowing the  air to slow down and expand before 
being used to heat the cabin. The first  test I had almost 
> no air pushing through the air ducts. The second  test had nice warm air  
. I have to do much more testing of this but I  like the early results.
> Has any one else tried this and if so what did  you find.
> 
> 
> First scoop
>  <habaehac.jpg>
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> 
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>  Second scoop
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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:37:41 -0500
From: Ron N VelocityXLFG via  Reflector <reflector at tvbf.org>
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and  Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Naca Hose  heater
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I had a blower on the  system naca intake at first a few years ago, The 
blower motor just did not  work as well as I had hoped.   Now If i had a 
separate heater  core
plumbed with a  blower just recirculating the cabin air I think  that 
Idea would work. But in an effort to keep it simple I am going to  work 
through this idea with a smaller
duct  .  I a perfect  world I will be faster because of Less Drag. Cool 
better by allowing the  air to slow down and grab more heat from the 
heater core. Be able to us  the extra heat
to heat the cabin and be very simple.
Bad part is I just  painted the plane I will have to touch it up.:(

Ron
On 10/8/2014  3:17 PM, Rene Dugas wrote:
> Ron,  I was attempting the same but  just don't get the temps you folks 
get.  I duct tape off about 80 percent  of the cooler front face in about a 
minute if it's cold.  One can't  really see it and it removes even quicker.

Not elegant.  I this the  circulation of air from cabin to cooler via bilge 
blower fan back into cabin  is a better choice.  If I plumb it I will cover 
the NACA and blow cabin  air through the cooler and overboard in summer.
> Best.
>
>  Sent from Rene's iPad. A pleasure.  Go Apple.
>
>
>>  On Oct 8, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Ron N VelocityXLFG via Reflector  
<reflector at tvbf.org> wrote:
>>
>> Now as winter is at  our door step here in Chicago.   We had snow on 
Saturday. I have  been trying a idea that seems to be
>> working out . I am in the  early stages of testing this but so far I 
like what I feel.  My thought  is the Naca front heater scoop
>> is what many say is a ram air  scoop. I think  is to large. So to keep 
it short I am working on blocking  off much of the scoop to see if I can get
>> more heat transfer by  allowing the air to slow down and expand before 
being used to heat the cabin.  The first test I had almost
>> no air pushing through the air ducts.  The second test had nice warm air 
. I have to do much more testing of  this but I like the early results.
>> Has any one else tried this and  if so what did you find.
>>
>>
>> First  scoop
>>  <habaehac.jpg>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Second scoop
>>
>>
>>  <fabibieg.jpg>
>>
>>
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:16:24 -0500
From: "Stockman, Bill via  Reflector" <reflector at tvbf.org>
To: Ron N VelocityXLFG  <velocityxl at fastmail.fm>, Velocity Aircraft
Owners and  Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Naca Hose  heater
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Several us up  "north" have installed a second cooler in the nose (mine is 
directly on top of  the first in a 173FGE) that only recirculated cabin air 
for heating.   Works very well. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Reflector  [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Ron N 
VelocityXLFG via  Reflector
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:38 PM
To: Velocity  Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Naca Hose  heater

I had a blower on the system naca intake at first a few years  ago, The 
blower motor just did not work as well as I had  hoped.   Now If i had a 
separate heater core
plumbed with  a  blower just recirculating the cabin air I think that Idea 
would work.  But in an effort to keep it simple I am going to work through 
this idea with a  smaller duct  .  I a perfect world I will be faster
because 
of Less  Drag. Cool better by allowing the air to slow down and grab more 
heat from the  heater core. Be able to us the extra heat to heat the cabin 
and be very  simple.
Bad part is I just painted the plane I will have to touch it  up.:(

Ron
On 10/8/2014 3:17 PM, Rene Dugas wrote:
> Ron,   I was attempting the same but just don't get the temps you folks 
get.  I  duct tape off about 80 percent of the cooler front face in about a 
minute if  it's cold.  One can't really see it and it removes even quicker.

Not elegant.  I this the circulation of air from cabin to cooler via  bilge 
blower fan back into cabin is a better choice.  If I plumb it I  will cover 
the NACA and blow cabin air through the cooler and overboard in  summer.
> Best.
>
> Sent from Rene's iPad. A pleasure.   Go Apple.
>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Ron N  VelocityXLFG via Reflector 
<reflector at tvbf.org>  wrote:
>>
>> Now as winter is at our door step here in  Chicago.   We had snow on 
Saturday. I have been trying a idea that  seems to be
>> working out . I am in the early stages of testing this  but so far I 
like what I feel.  My thought is the Naca front heater  scoop
>> is what many say is a ram air scoop. I think  is to  large. So to keep 
it short I am working on blocking off much of the scoop to  see if I can get
>> more heat transfer by allowing the air to slow  down and expand before 
being used to heat the cabin. The first test I had  almost
>> no air pushing through the air ducts. The second test had  nice warm air 
. I have to do much more testing of this but I like the  early results.
>> Has any one else tried this and if so what did you  find.
>>
>>
>> First scoop
>>  <habaehac.jpg>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Second scoop
>>
>>
>>  <fabibieg.jpg>
>>
>>
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 00:00:44 +0000 (UTC)
From: jeff findarle via Reflector <reflector at tvbf.org>
To: "Stockman, Bill" <bill.stockman at daytonaero.com>, Velocity Aircraft
    Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Naca Hose heater
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Question, On my 173RG, this is also the Naca vent for the Oil cooler. Are
you having any cooling issues blocking the vent off?
I know on my Old Cherokee we would adjust the oil temp by adjusting the
intake on the inlet to the oil cooler. Thank you, Jeff
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     On Thursday, October 9, 2014 7:16 AM, "Stockman, Bill via Reflector"
<reflector at tvbf.org> wrote:

Several us up "north" have installed a second cooler in the nose (mine is
directly on top of the first in a 173FGE) that only recirculated cabin air
for heating.    Works very well. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Reflector [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Ron N
VelocityXLFG via Reflector
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:38 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Naca Hose heater

I had a blower on the system naca intake at first a few years ago, The 
blower motor just did not work as well as I had hoped.  Now If i had a 
separate heater core
plumbed with a  blower just recirculating the cabin air I think that Idea
would work. But in an effort to keep it simple I am going to work through
this idea with a smaller duct  .  I a perfect world I will be faster because
of Less Drag. Cool better by allowing the air to slow down and grab more
heat from the heater core. Be able to us the extra heat to heat the cabin
and be very simple.
Bad part is I just painted the plane I will have to touch it up.:(

Ron
On 10/8/2014 3:17 PM, Rene Dugas wrote:
> Ron,  I was attempting the same but just don't get the temps you folks
get.  I duct tape off about 80 percent of the cooler front face in about a
minute if it's cold.  One can't really see it and it removes even quicker.
Not elegant.  I this the circulation of air from cabin to cooler via bilge
blower fan back into cabin is a better choice.  If I plumb it I will cover
the NACA and blow cabin air through the cooler and overboard in summer.
> Best.
>
> Sent from Rene's iPad. A pleasure.  Go Apple.
>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Ron N VelocityXLFG via Reflector
<reflector at tvbf.org> wrote:
>>
>> Now as winter is at our door step here in Chicago.  We had snow on
Saturday. I have been trying a idea that seems to be
>> working out . I am in the early stages of testing this but so far I like
what I feel.  My thought is the Naca front heater scoop
>> is what many say is a ram air scoop. I think  is to large. So to keep it
short I am working on blocking off much of the scoop to see if I can get
>> more heat transfer by allowing the air to slow down and expand before
being used to heat the cabin. The first test I had almost
>> no air pushing through the air ducts. The second test had nice warm air
. I have to do much more testing of this but I like the early results.
>> Has any one else tried this and if so what did you find.
>>
>>
>> First scoop
>> <habaehac.jpg>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Second scoop
>>
>>
>> <fabibieg.jpg>
>>
>>
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