REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 98, Issue 50 Rolls

Mark Riley the_rileys1 at verizon.net
Sun May 12 21:19:23 CDT 2013


I have been a passenger in the factory XL "Childs Play" when Scott Swing did a roll. I have never tried it and probably never will. Definitely get aerobatic training before you do.

Mark
On May 12, 2013, at 9:42 PM, reflector-request at tvbf.org wrote:

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>   1. Re:  rolls (Rene Dugas)
>   2. Re:  RG Up and down shut0ff (Rene Dugas)
>   3. Re:  Performance (Rene Dugas)
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> Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 19:26:21 -0500
> From: Rene Dugas <renedugas at gmail.com>
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> Doable but start over 30 degrees pitch angle and start with hard same side rudder.  Don't recommend. 
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> On May 11, 2013, at 10:11 PM, "Lou Stedman" <stedmanlou at roadrunner.com> wrote:
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>> Has anyone ever done a roll in their Velo? If so how were the handling characteristics?
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> From: Rene Dugas <renedugas at gmail.com>
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> Been listening in on this problem many time and usually it turns out to be the dump valve.  At least it would be at the top of the list. 
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> On May 12, 2013, at 7:48 AM, Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net> wrote:
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>> I know this may be a silly question, but is your dump valve fully closed?  Been that and done there!
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>> Scott
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>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: REFLECTOR: RG Up and down shut0ff
>> From: <jerry at jlbent.com>
>> To: Velocity Aicraft Owners and Builder list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Date: 05/11/2013 08:54 PM
>>> I am working on the retract system on 5164U and I am having some weird  issues.  Everything was working OK but then it started having run on after the gear is up and locked.  The pump keeps running and the reservoir start to have frothy in it.  And now the there is the added problem of the gear goes down upand the pump is still engergized.  This is a 1996 top loader.  The pressure sensors have two adjuster screws and I don't have a clue as t/o which to adjust for what.  Each sensor has two screws.  I can see labels UP and DN.  As I recall, down is the retraction and up is the gear down.  How much adjustment should I expect?  One turn counterclockwise?  Two?.  Any suggestions as to what is going on?
>>> 
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>>> Jerry Brainard
>>> Jerry at JLBEnt.com
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> Similar but I think more like 45 degree back.  Another choice with its own problem but a consideration would be recessed groove in the lower cowl lined with stainless and carbon so the pipes exit outside into the groove parallel to the cowl for 2 or three inches.  Slight fairing upwind to promote a vacuum and allow the exit to be small enough to get the cowl off. Just musing.  Everything has negatives but a thought.  ?
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> On May 12, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net> wrote:
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>> The old V12 P51's did that didn't they?
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>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Performance
>> From: Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com>
>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Date: 05/12/2013 06:44 AM
>>> Would any of the six-cylinder guys with three straight down pipes per side comment on thoughts of adding 90's at the  exit? I'm thinking this is the most KISS principle method. Or is anyone considering this? I think the three pipes straight down with 90's and slight modification on the cowling might fit the ticket for me.
>>> Mark Magee
>>> N34XL
>>> Brady TX
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>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net> wrote:
>>>> Dave,
>>>> 
>>>>    I had Custom send me two 90's.  I cut and fit the 90's to my exhaust.  I marked the pieces how I wanted them welded and sent them back for Clint to weld.  
>>>> 
>>>>    Here's a link showing me setting one side up prior to sending off for welding. the small tube on the right is the crankcase breather augmenter., prior to trimming.
>>>> 
>>>> I've linked 1 file to this email:
>>>> <mime-attachment.png>IMAG0010.jpg(1.1 MB)<mime-attachment.png>Ubuntu One
>>>> http://ubuntuone.com/3Hutfy91L3wGh0z32x36Fy
>>>> Mozilla Thunderbird makes it easy to share large files over email.
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>>>> 
>>>> Scott
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>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Performance
>>>> From: Dave T Nelson <dtnelson at us.ibm.com>
>>>> To: reflector at tvbf.org
>>>> Date: 05/10/2013 01:22 PM
>>>>> I'm pretty sure it was Custom Aircraft that did mine... I'll double check.  And, just as an FYI, they did ask if the could pull a template from my design, and I let them do it.  My engine is a Lycoming IO-360 A2B.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave
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>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Message from nmflyer1 at aol.com on Fri, 10 May 2013 14:59:04 -0400 (EDT) -----
>>>>> 
>>>>> To:
>>>>> geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com, reflector at tvbf.org
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> Re: REFLECTOR: Performance
>>>>> I have been using Custom Aircraft Parts in Ca. ever since Scott turned me on to them. they have rebuilt my 235 exhaust system as well as built my Velocity exhaust. Great workmanship, great prices, Fast turnaround times.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.customaircraft.com/
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Kurt 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Geoff Gerhardt <geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>>>> Sent: Fri, May 10, 2013 9:59 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Performance
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I think I will accept this challenge.  If anyone has any advice on the best AC exhaust company to use I'd appreciate it.  I've seen that many offer to send you put this PVC pipe kit to get it right, then will weld up a ss pipe based on this design. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any input on 4-4, 2x2-1 or 4-1 configurations would be appreciated.  Also, anyone who has info from longez or cozy implementations of this would be helpful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Richard J. Gentil <richard at naples-air-center.com> wrote:
>>>>> I would say we need someone (Geoff, Geoff) who only changes the exhaust and nothing else, runs a test and reports back to the Reflector with the findings
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
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