REFLECTOR: Logging CC trips

Scott Durham bsdurham at charter.net
Tue May 7 21:48:08 CDT 2013


Oops, missed that one. I stand corrected

From: Clayton Chase 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 8:51 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list 
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Logging CC trips

I'm confused what you mean with "except ATP"


61.1(b)(4)(vi) defines cross-country for the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements for an airline transport pilot certificate and the text is the same as for 61.1(b)(4)(ii), which covers private pilot certificate, a commercial pilot certificate, or an instrument rating, or for the purpose of exercising recreational pilot privileges under 61.101(c). 



On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Scott Durham <bsdurham at charter.net> wrote:

  Except ATP

  From: steve korney 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 5:51 PM
  To: Reflector Reflector 
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Logging CC trips

  It may be logged as CC time as a private pilot, but it doesn't look like you can use it to log time for a new certificate of any kind...



  > (ii) For the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements 
  > (except for a rotorcraft category rating), for a private pilot certificate 
  > (except for a powered parachute category rating), a commercial pilot 
  > certificate, or an instrument rating, or for the purpose of exercising 
  > recreational pilot privileges (except in a rotorcraft) under § 61.101 (c), 
  > time acquired during a flight—

  > (A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;
  > 
  > (B) That includes a point of landing that was at least a straight-line 
  > distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of 
  > departure; and
  > 
  > (C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation 
  > aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing 
  > point.


  Steve 


  > From: bsdurham at charter.net
  > To: reflector at tvbf.org
  > Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 17:22:07 -0500
  > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Logging CC trips
  > 
  > FAR 61.1(b)4
  > 
  > (4) Cross-country time means—
  > 
  > (i) Except as provided in paragraphs (b)(4)(ii) through (b)(4)(vi) of this 
  > section, time acquired during flight—
  > 
  > (A) Conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;
  > 
  > (B) Conducted in an aircraft;
  > 
  > (C) That includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure; 
  > and
  > 
  > (D) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation 
  > aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing 
  > point.
  > 
  > (ii) For the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements 
  > (except for a rotorcraft category rating), for a private pilot certificate 
  > (except for a powered parachute category rating), a commercial pilot 
  > certificate, or an instrument rating, or for the purpose of exercising 
  > recreational pilot privileges (except in a rotorcraft) under § 61.101 (c), 
  > time acquired during a flight—
  > 
  > (A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;
  > 
  > (B) That includes a point of landing that was at least a straight-line 
  > distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of 
  > departure; and
  > 
  > (C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation 
  > aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing 
  > point.
  > 
  > -----Original Message----- 
  > From: John Abraham
  > Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 5:09 PM
  > To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
  > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Logging CC trips
  > 
  > That is true. You can use the CC time for the ATP XC requirement. Richard G. 
  > Chime in here?
  > 
  > John
  > 
  > On May 7, 2013, at 5:55 PM, David Rene Dugas <renedugas at gmail.com> wrote:
  > 
  > > Unfamiliar with that change.
  > >
  > > Rene' Dugas
  > > Sent from an Apple.
  > >
  > > On May 7, 2013, at 3:48 PM, John Dibble <aminetech at bluefrog.com> wrote:
  > >
  > >> Just had a BFR and learned a few things. When I trained for my private 
  > >> pilot, I was told that flights had to be 50 nm to be logged as CC. Now 
  > >> I'm told that any flight to another airport, no matter how close, is 
  > >> logged as CC once one has a private pilot license.
  > >>
  > >> John
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