REFLECTOR: GPS IFR Approaches: Radio Required

[Don Johnston]

I would respectfully disagree.

I've been flying behind a 430 for 10 years (w for the last 7 years).
Probably about 1000 hours total with 90% of that IFR and almost all of that
time cross-country.

It takes me less than 60 seconds to enter a flight plan. The worst possible
situation would be an unexpected routing using airways. But I've only run
into that maybe three times in 10 years. And when it did, I simply asked
for the routing by waypoint. Lately, I've been filing direct (and getting
every time) if the destination is well known. Otherwise, I add a VOR near
the destination.

Now I'm in the midwest (inside ORD class B) so things can be different
elsewhere. For example, anything from DC north is a whole different
ballgame.

The MX-20 (480) is a nice box. No doubt about it. That was my first choice
but I settled for the 430 because of price.

My point is that I wouldn't disregard the 430/530.  It's got a huge
installed base and will be supported for a long time. I was going to put a
430 in my panel (if I ever get to that point) until I decided on a remote
GPS.

Just my .02

-Don

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Lawrence Epstein <ljepstein at hotmail.com>wrote:

> If you want to fly IFR regularly, I would not get the 430/530w series.
> That is really a VFR box that can do IFR. Biggest problem with that is when
> you want to fly airways. With that series, (I believe same with the King),
> you must manually enter every waypoint on the Airway. Bad enough when you
> are on the ground copying a clearance. Impossible when picking up a
> clearance in the air.
>
> I have been flying behind a Garmin GNS 480 (UPS CNX80) for ~10 years.
> Great IFR box. You can pick one up on Ebay for about $5k now.
>
> Larry
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Any radiomen out there could please help me determine if I could do most
>> of what I want with an MFD with Syn Vision, HITS, approaches installed in
>> the software: I understand the Garmin 430W will get you down legally at any
>> terminal with a published GPS Precision Approach. Those units are still
>> holding their value quite well, but what of this King:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BendixKing-KLN90B-IFR-Approach-Approved-GPS-System-/330889767931
>>
>>
>> Without the Precision Approach cert, what would be my limitation?
>> Practically, functionally?
>> My IFR ticket is long out of date and I will have to get back up to snuff
>> on flying them. I'm asking about shooting approaches is this current 'Grey
>> Area' where folks are functionally doing a lot of IFR approaches -without-
>> IFR Approach certified radios driving their installed MFD's.
>>
>> Opinions please. I do understand the regs, just probing for reality.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mark B. Magee
>> N34XL XLFG
>>
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