REFLECTOR: DIY EFIS

Wed Jul 24 14:54:26 CDT 2013

I had mine fail on the seat next to me, last summer (not in the sun)

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe any hot/cold and screen brightness issues could be addressed
> cost effectively with after market products for the iPad market.
> The tech at Levil said the iPad overheating shutdown issues have been
> occurring on glare shield mounts, and that a customer of Levils is
> installing THREE iPads (2 full size and a mini) as a PFD currently under
> the theory that they will live comfortably in their operating temp range
> mounted in the panel mount.
>
> Mark B. Magee
> N34XL
> Sent from IPhone 4S
>
>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:29 PM, "Richard J. Gentil" <
> richard at naples-air-center.com> wrote:
>
> I have been looking for a while at the AHRS-G micro, Attitude and Heading
> Reference System:
>
> http://www.aviation.levil.com/AHRS_micro_DataSheet.pdf
>
> I was thinking we could build a cost effective system around this
> hardware. Get the proper sunlight visible LCD screens and design a PFD.
>
> Richard
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5
>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Reiff Lorenz <Reiff at lorenz.com> wrote:
>
> ** **
>
> Mark,****
>
> ** **
>
> I would consider an off-the-shelf setup like that at some point in the
> future. There are a number of conditions to be met, though. Not all of them
> are available today.****
>
> ** **
>
> 1.       Pitot-static data fed to the tablet, not just GPS altitude and
> ground speed. Something like this would work:
> http://kitplanes2.com/blog/2013/07/levil-technologys-new-ilevilaw-adahrs/*
> ***
>
> 2.       Tablets in the panel are dedicated to that purpose. I don't want
> my flight instruments to double as my email client, traveling web browser,
> and portable game system.****
>
> 3.       Software that is specifically designed to be a primary EFIS.
> This is the biggest hurdle. Most products that I've seen are
> flight-planning apps or in-flight charts that have added an EFIS screen. I
> can foresee these same products deleting this "add-on feature" for
> liability reasons when they discover pilots have started using them for
> critical flight information. Also, until the programmers of these systems
> are committed to providing a product that is reliable enough for IMC, I
> don't have the confidence that every revision of their software will be
> tested to an acceptable level of assurance.****
>
> 4.       High level of integration. I'm willing to pay a lot more than
> the cost of an iPad for a device that will integrate with my approach GPS,
> radios, autopilot, Vertical Power system, and engine monitor.****
>
> ** **
>
> Until #3 and #4 are solved, I plan on having a dedicated EFIS and using a
> tablet for backup navigation and future EFIS experimentation. There's one
> EFIS manufacturer (GRT?) that allows a tablet to serve as a second screen
> for their product. This seems like the best of both worlds . . . dedicated
> equipment with off-the-shelf expansion options.****
>
> ** **
>
> Reiff****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org<reflector-bounces at tvbf.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Mark Magee
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:58 AM
> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> *Cc:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: DIY EFIS****
>
> ** **
>
> And panel mount WAAS GPS, as in 430W or better with approaches.
>
> Sent from my iPad****
>
> Mark B. Magee****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net> wrote:****
>
> As a PFD system? Or a backup?
>
> And as to "along with a WAAS enabled GPS", do you mean like a panel mount
> aviation GPS? Like a 400W?****
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> All,****
>
> Anyone considering permanently, or semi-permanently mounting two full
> sized iPads and adding an app like WingxPro7****
>
> ** **
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wingx-pro7-aviation-moving/id378172082?mt=8
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Or simlars:****
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.aviation.levil.com/Software.htm****
>
> ** **
>
> and a Levil AHRS and compatible ADSB receiver for traffic and weather****
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.aviation.levil.com/AHRS_mini.htm****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> along with a WAAS enabled GPS for a complete glass panel, short of
> mini-backup steam gauges?****
>
> ** **
>
> I would think this would run the flight deck nicely for under $4,000 all
> in. Much less if you picked up used iPads.****
>
> ** **
>
> I was preparing to go GRT at 5 times that price, but I wonder if I
> wouldn't be just as safe with this setup. Maintenance on this flight deck
> would be at Best Buy.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thoughts appreciated.****
>
> ** **
>
> Mark B. Magee****
>
> N34XL****
>
> Brady TX****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> -- ****
>
> A human being should be able to change a diaper<http://www.ebay.com/sch/Consumer-Electronics-/293/i.html?_nkw=diaper>,
> plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a
> sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take
> orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
> problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
> efficiently, die gallantly.
> Specialization is for insects.
> - Lazarus Long<http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=267&type=2&ext=300927187756&item=300927187756>,
> as written by Robert A. Heinlein.****
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> To change your email address, visit
> http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
>
> Visit the gallery!  www.tvbf.org/gallery
> user:pw = tvbf:jamaicangoose
> Check new archives: www.tvbf.org/pipermail
> Check old archives: http://www.tvbf.org/archives/velocity/maillist.html***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> _______________________________________________
> To change your email address, visit
> http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
>
> Visit the gallery!  www.tvbf.org/gallery
> user:pw = tvbf:jamaicangoose
> Check new archives: www.tvbf.org/pipermail
> Check old archives: http://www.tvbf.org/archives/velocity/maillist.html***
> *
>
> _______________________________________________
> To change your email address, visit
> http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
>
> Visit the gallery!  www.tvbf.org/gallery
> user:pw = tvbf:jamaicangoose
> Check new archives: www.tvbf.org/pipermail
> Check old archives: http://www.tvbf.org/archives/velocity/maillist.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> To change your email address, visit
> http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
>
> Visit the gallery!  www.tvbf.org/gallery
> user:pw = tvbf:jamaicangoose
> Check new archives: www.tvbf.org/pipermail
> Check old archives: http://www.tvbf.org/archives/velocity/maillist.html
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> To change your email address, visit
> http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
>
> Visit the gallery!  www.tvbf.org/gallery
> user:pw = tvbf:jamaicangoose
> Check new archives: www.tvbf.org/pipermail
> Check old archives: http://www.tvbf.org/archives/velocity/maillist.html
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/private/reflector/attachments/20130724/e81238b6/attachment.html>