REFLECTOR: Starter contactor

Don Johnston numa at comcast.net
Thu Jul 18 11:57:44 CDT 2013


But you'll still have the alternator wires running up to the front. And
they're energized when the alternator is on.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Laurence Coen <lwcoen at hotmail.com> wrote:

> David,
>
> I takes about 15' of #2 to supply starter current from the battery up
> front to the engine compartment so it doesn't matter which end the starter
> solenoid is connected to.  Same wire same weight.  My starter solenoid is
> up front for a reason.  That #2 wire is hot all the time your master is on
> and if something comes loose and shorts it to ground, big trouble.  With
> the solenoid up front it is only energized during start and can't give you
> any grief once you're up and running.  It won't work any different with
> either configuration but I think having the solenoid up front is safer.
>
> Larry Coen
> N136LC
>
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> From: "David Ullman" <ullman at robustdecisions.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:10 AM
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> Subject: REFLECTOR: Starter contactor
>
>  If you are referring to what I call the starter solenoid, mine is on the
>> firewall.  I thought that was where most people put them to keep the wire
>> weight down.  I have my main in the front.
>>
>>
>> David Ullman
>> N444DX
>> President EAA 292
>> 541-760-2338
>> david at davidullman.com
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>>   1.  Does anyone have their starter contactor on the firewall?
>>      (Don Johnston)
>>   2. Re:  Does anyone have their starter contactor on the
>>      firewall? (Tim Rhodenbaugh)
>>   3. Re:  Does anyone have their starter contactor on the
>>      firewall? (Don Johnston)
>>   4.  Speed Brake (John Dibble)
>>   5. Re:  Does anyone have their starter contactor on the
>>      firewall? (nmflyer1 at aol.com)
>>   6. Re:  Does anyone have their starter contactor on the
>>      firewall? (Scott Derrick)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:10:39 -0500
>> From: Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net>
>> To: reflector at tvbf.org
>> Subject: REFLECTOR: Does anyone have their starter contactor on the
>> firewall?
>> Message-ID:
>> <CALD29ir2d+_B6u=Ew5U0Ze_+**Se2S0UVo7z6oUJe0YkuonF6-WQ@**mail.gmail.com<Ew5U0Ze_%2BSe2S0UVo7z6oUJe0YkuonF6-WQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>> I've got the gear pump assembly from Wayne Lanza which has the battery and
>> the starter contactor on it.
>>
>> I'm looking at the wiring and having to run the B-leads from the
>> alternators
>> all the way up to the nose. It occurred to me that I if the starter
>> contactor was on the firewall that I could run the alternators to the
>> battery side of the starter contactor which would allow me to utilize the
>> low gauge wire already in place between the the starter and battery
>> contactor.
>>
>> But every Velocity that I've looked at has the both contactors in the
>> front.
>>
>> Just wondering anyone has their starter contactor on the firewall.
>>
>> -Don Johnston
>> XL-RG
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>> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:18:33 -0400
>> From: Tim Rhodenbaugh <timrhod at aol.com>
>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Does anyone have their starter contactor on
>> the firewall?
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>> It's been done. I put mine on the firewall. Are you sure it's the starter
>> contractor on the pump assembly board and not the master contractor?   Tim
>> Rhodenbaugh n370TR XLRG
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  I've got the gear pump assembly from Wayne Lanza which has the battery
>>> and
>>>
>> the starter contactor on it.
>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking at the wiring and having to run the B-leads from the
>>>
>> alternators all the way up to the nose. It occurred to me that I if the
>> starter contactor was on the firewall that I could run the alternators to
>> the battery side of the starter contactor which would allow me to utilize
>> the low gauge wire already in place between the the starter and battery
>> contactor.
>>
>>>
>>> But every Velocity that I've looked at has the both contactors in the
>>>
>> front.
>>
>>>
>>> Just wondering anyone has their starter contactor on the firewall.
>>>
>>> -Don Johnston
>>> XL-RG
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:30:11 -0500
>> From: Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net>
>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Does anyone have their starter contactor on
>> the firewall?
>> Message-ID:
>> <CALD29iqf--7FFRExbsu4+**XKK8x8jLz_=gs+QVas1rhPGW7i09Q@**mail.gmail.com<gs%2BQVas1rhPGW7i09Q at mail.gmail.com>
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>> I'm sure. :-)
>>
>> http://www.velocity-xl.com/**blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/**
>> 11/2011-11-16-DSC_01<http://www.velocity-xl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2011-11-16-DSC_01>
>> 40.jpg
>>
>> -Don
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Tim Rhodenbaugh <timrhod at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>  It's been done. I put mine on the firewall. Are you sure it's the starter
>>> contractor on the pump assembly board and not the master contractor? Tim
>>> Rhodenbaugh n370TR XLRG
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I've got the gear pump assembly from Wayne Lanza which has the
>>> > battery
>>> and the starter contactor on it.
>>> >
>>> > I'm looking at the wiring and having to run the B-leads from the
>>> alternators all the way up to the nose. It occurred to me that I if
>>> the starter contactor was on the firewall that I could run the
>>> alternators to the battery side of the starter contactor which would
>>> allow me to utilize the low gauge wire already in place between the
>>> the starter and battery contactor.
>>> >
>>> > But every Velocity that I've looked at has the both contactors in
>>> > the
>>> front.
>>> >
>>> > Just wondering anyone has their starter contactor on the firewall.
>>> >
>>> > -Don Johnston
>>> > XL-RG
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:52:04 -0500
>> From: John Dibble <aminetech at bluefrog.com>
>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Subject: REFLECTOR: Speed Brake
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>> A small amount of hydraulic fluid is leaking at the back side of my speed
>> brake.  Looking on the inside it seems to originate where the "cylinder"
>> connects to the brake.  Does the speed brake use hydraulic fluid?  If so,
>> does it come from the retract system, or is it separate?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:24:26 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: nmflyer1 at aol.com
>> To: reflector at tvbf.org
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Does anyone have their starter contactor on
>> the firewall?
>> Message-ID: <8D0513A62DEDC1F-D2C-ACF32@**webmail-d143.sysops.aol.com<8D0513A62DEDC1F-D2C-ACF32 at webmail-d143.sysops.aol.com>
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>> Both my contactors are in the nose. Running a conduit ground with the main
>>
>> cable running inside that. Alternator wire runs to the contact point on
>> the
>> starter where the main cable attaches.
>>
>> Note:  2-seperate battery system.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net>
>> To: reflector <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:13 pm
>> Subject: REFLECTOR: Does anyone have their starter contactor on the
>> firewall?
>>
>>
>> I've got the gear pump assembly from Wayne Lanza which has the battery and
>> the starter contactor on it.
>>
>> I'm looking at the wiring and having to run the B-leads from the
>> alternators
>> all the way up to the nose. It occurred to me that I if the starter
>> contactor was on the firewall that I could run the alternators to the
>> battery side of the starter contactor which would allow me to utilize the
>> low gauge wire already in place between the the starter and battery
>> contactor.
>>
>> But every Velocity that I've looked at has the both contactors in the
>> front.
>>
>>
>> Just wondering anyone has their starter contactor on the firewall.
>>
>> -Don Johnston
>> XL-RG
>>
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:24:35 -0600
>> From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
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