REFLECTOR: Roll trim mod suggestions

[Carl Hoffman]

I've been been flying with the factory setup for 13 years. Early on I changed the S spring to full width, no narrowing. The Navaid autopilot and GPS coupler to the Garmin 295 work fine, as well as the roll trim motor. In flight the trailing edge is a little high. 

Carl Hoffman

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                                Cherokee lake on the Holston river at KMOR on 12/3/13


> On Dec 11, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Andrew Ellzey <ajlz72756 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Don,
> 
> I agree with brook, I installed the factory setup and my roll trim works just fine. My pitch trim with factory fiberglass S spring works great also. I have heard this same discussion since I purchased my kit in 2005. My suggestion is that you spend your time making your flight controls as smooth as possible the factory trim systems are working just fine for me. Your results my very, but I would give the factory setup a try.
> 
> My .02 cents.
> 
> Andy Ellzey
> XLRG 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Brooke Wolf <bwolf1 at tds.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>> I have the factory setup on mine and it is not a problem.  The string and pulley system may seem a little cheesy but, surprisingly,  it works.  I too was concerned about its utility.  On the ground, without air loads, it seemed to slip quite a bit.  The only thing I did different during the build was to coat the string with  a little belt dressing.  It still slipped (on the ground).  I haven’t touched it since.  It works just fine in the air.  Frankly, since beginning flight, I haven’t given it much thought.  It is just not an issue.  I trim subconsciously in both roll and vertical modes with the standard “coolie hat” switch.  Somehow without thinking about it, the airplane stays trimmed in both modes.  
>> 
>> BTW,  the check is in the mail.  Thanks
>> 
>> Brooke
>> 
>>  
>>> 
>>>   1.  Roll trim mod suggestions (Don Johnston)
>>> 
>>> From: Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: REFLECTOR: Roll trim mod suggestions
>>> Date: December 10, 2013 at 9:51:58 PM EST
>>> To: "reflector at tvbf.org" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> Reply-To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Requesting suggestions from the hive mind...
>>> 
>>> After hearing all the comments about the stock roll trim slipping, I decided that I would go another way. When I saw Geoff's solution, I felt it was perfect. 
>>> 
>>> Except he has a motor with a .25" shaft where mine is 5/16". The pulleys for the 5/16" shafts are only available in a larger diameter and that caused interference issues with the aileron torque-tube bellcrank and cables. 
>>> 
>>> So I decided to go with a system similar to what is in my Cessna. Chains!  Absolutely no slipping with chains. And it works great. Positive motion and no slipping. In fact, it will pull the spring around the pulley. Which causes it to derail and get caught in the bellcrank. :-(
>>> 
>>> I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to put in a (simple) motion limiting mechanism. It would have to be on the motor or chain. My first thought was microswitches that reverse the motor direction. But I cant' figure out how to trigger the switches. 
>>> 
>>> Don
>> 
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