REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 101, Issue 33
Darrell & Nora Kufalk
kufalk at wi.rr.com
Mon Aug 12 21:52:11 CDT 2013
Consider a paint scheme that de-emphasizes the lower winglets like this...
Darrell
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My first plane had no winglets. My second plane has winglets. I like the
look better without winglets. I like the handling a lot better with
winglets.
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> My STD RG does not have them and I think it flys fine, but I have not
flown any other Velos, so I have nothing to compare to.
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> Jon Bachman
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> OK, I have talked to a few people who built their birds without the
winglets and are telling me they are definitely fine without them. Any
others out there like to comment?
> Of course I realize that maybe they have not flown a Velocity with them,
but they all said they have had no problems in slow flight controlability or
in crosswind landings.
> I really would prefer not to have them on the plane if possible.
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> Hello,
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> I have about 600 hours without, and 130 with Winglets in a Velocity.
> There should be no discussion, always put them on.
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> With no wind and smooth approaches a 10 hour pilot can land a Velocity
> with or without winglets, but with serious crosswinds and unstable
> approaches ( busy traffic, sharp turns towards final) you will get in
> trouble without winglets fast.
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>> OK, I have talked to a few people who built their birds without the
>> winglets and are telling me they are definitely fine without them.
>> Any others out there like to comment?
>> Of course I realize that maybe they have not flown a Velocity with
>> them, but they all said they have had no problems in slow flight
>> controlability or in crosswind landings.
>> I really would prefer not to have them on the plane if possible.
>>
>> ?
>> TEAM JEFF,
>> Jeff Findarle, GRI & Darin Heckel
>> Realtor ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Realtor
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>> AllStar Realty
>> 575 N main St.
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>> Jeff's Cell 435-503-0514
>> Darin's Cell 435-671-3957
>> Off. 435-654-9440
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>> I am flying without the winglets.
>> I would like more directional control, and am compensating with
>> faster approaches. I believe I will be testing them to see if they
>> allow me better control at slower airspeeds.
>>
>> This will probably happen this fall after things cool off. I was at
>> the airport testing on Saturday, battling my high temps. It's just
>> too hot right now to tackle all of the minor squawks I've got. On my
>> last flight I advanced the timing slightly and got a hot #3 cylinder
>> as a result, but my oil duct cooling scoop seemed to work keeping my
>> oil temps below redline.
>>
>> On 8/12/2013 11:35 AM, jeff findarle wrote:
>>> OK, I have talked to a few people who built their birds without the
>>> winglets and are telling me they are definitely fine without them.
>>> Any others out there like to comment?
>>> Of course I realize that maybe they have not flown a Velocity with
>>> them, but they all said they have had no problems in slow flight
>>> controlability or in crosswind landings.
>>> I really would prefer not to have them on the plane if possible.
>>> TEAM JEFF,
>>> Jeff Findarle, GRI & Darin Heckel
>>> Realtor Realtor
>>>
>>> AllStar Realty
>>> 575 N main St.
>>> Heber City, UT. 84032
>>>
>>> Jeff's Cell 435-503-0514
>>> Darin's Cell 435-671-3957
>>> Off. 435-654-9440
>>> Fax 435-654-9437
>>>
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>>> Don't Lose it, Sell it!
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>> I have flown with winglets and had no issues.
>> I prefer them not only for flight characteristics that many have
>> documented but I think they look better also Kevin Baker
>>
>> .
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>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:35 AM, jeff findarle
>> <flynfindarle at yahoo.com<javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I have talked to a few people who built their birds without the
>> winglets and are telling me they are definitely fine without them.
>> Any others out there like to comment?
>>> Of course I realize that maybe they have not flown a Velocity with
>>> them,
>> but they all said they have had no problems in slow flight
>> controlability or in crosswind landings.
>>> I really would prefer not to have them on the plane if possible.
>>>
>>> TEAM JEFF,
>>> Jeff Findarle, GRI & Darin Heckel
>>> Realtor Realtor
>>>
>>> AllStar Realty
>>> 575 N main St.
>>> Heber City, UT. 84032
>>>
>>> Jeff's Cell 435-503-0514
>>> Darin's Cell 435-671-3957
>>> Off. 435-654-9440
>>> Fax 435-654-9437
>>>
>>> Distressed Property Experts, Short Sales a Specialty!
>>> Don't Lose it, Sell it!
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> Add high density altitude to your thinking. Not much of that on those nice
warm 90-100+ degree days in southern UT, AZ, NM, CA, TX, huh ?
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> Beauty is as beauty does.
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