REFLECTOR: Early model Velocity RG Engine Cooling (Now - which performance mods)?

Tue Nov 20 14:53:41 CST 2012

Dave,

My plane is heavy and still in primer. It is a Standard RG with Elite doors. IO-390-X, with an MT. 

With radar power down low I cannot get anything faster then 170kts true. When I am at 7500 feet at 23 squared is around 157kts with just me in it burning 7.5 to 9 gallons depending how far lop I want to go. 

I did fly through a little light rain and saw no change in TAS so I am assuming I do not have any laminar flow with just a rattle can primer paint job. 

Richard

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On Nov 20, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Dave T Nelson <dtnelson at us.ibm.com> wrote:

> I've got a STD-RG, Lycoming IO-360 and an MT prop.  I started off with armpit scoops feeding into a tops-down plenum, along with a single nose mounted oil cooler.  Intake air was off a second scoop mounted on the right wing.  
> 
> My situation was that I built my plane while sharing my shop with a good buddy who built a really nice Cozy 3 place.  We got them both flying at about the same time, and spent many happy years racing (and bragging).  I still say his plane was the slow ugly one.
> 
> Anyway, the main thing(s) you do to make these airplanes go fast are all about weight and aerodynamics.  Power increases don't get the same bang for the buck.  I focused mostly on drag reduction... really clean gear doors, clean canard/fuselage interface, minimum cooling drag, and clean exhaust system.  The last two are the most important.
> 
> The armpit scoops are a bit of an aerodynamic disaster... they are all too big.  If you tuft or do an oil study on them, you'll find that the bulk of the air is getting pushed back out of the scoop because of the inherent flow resistance of the  tubes taking the air to the top of the plenum, the flow through the plenum & engine, and the output behind the prop.  An oil study will likely also show nearly dead air at the output (right behind the prop).  The total square inches of inlet are too great, and so is the total square inches of outlet.  
> 
> Many of my initial mods were in trying to clean up the cooling and intake air..  I made several different styles of cooling air intakes, each smaller than the last.  Nothing worked particularly well.  Eventually, after developing significant cooling issues (which turned out to be an engine issue, not an aerodynamic problem), I went to the rooftop NACAs.  As I said... they work fabulously.  I take my induction air off the right NACA.  There are no external protrusions on my plane.  
> 
> The exhaust changes were probably the most speed gain.  I've gone from the original rear exiting 2 in 1's that exit through tubes attached to the lower cowl, to the "straight out the bottom" types you see on many XLs today (which were by far the worst performers - a real disaster), to what I have today - a one-of design of my own that keeps the entire exhaust inside the cowl and exits aft of the prop.  That was a big gain!
> 
> OK, performance... I see around 185 knots true +/- at around 25 squared... middling altitudes... at around 10 - 11 gallons / hour ... cold air, down low, with a light plane is better still.  It's not as fast as I'd like, but I'm not done trying.  The next effort will be a complete cowl redesign to get rid of those awful turns where the cowl angles in just aft of the last cylinder.  All the attached air detaches at that point...
> 
> Hope this helps.  What numbers to you see?
> 
> Dave
> 
> Dave T. Nelson
> T/L 553-4327, Voice 507-253-4327, Fax 507-253-3648
> Program Director, ISC ECAT NPI & Test Engineering
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Message from "Richard J. Gentil" <richard at naples-air-center.com> on Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:38:47 -0500 -----
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> Re: REFLECTOR: Early model Velocity RG Engine Cooling (David Smith)
> Dave N,
> 
> Which go fast mod have you done and what speeds are you getting? (Please mention the engine and prop combo you are running.)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Richard
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5
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