REFLECTOR: Was Brakes -> Now Forum
Brian Michalk
michalk at awpi.com
Mon May 14 10:54:54 CDT 2012
I am currently running the email list, if any of you did not know that.
It seems like searchability is the issue. I have archives going back to
even before the list was on my servers. I have over time explored
various solutions to this and can look at what's available now.
On 5/12/2012 1:50 PM, Mark Magee wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> I do the same as you, assigning filters to threads pertinent to my bird.
> It is not a matter of not liking email: it is a matter of
> search-ability and organizational structure.
> Problem is new folks joining the community don't have those emails (as
> you, I and others do) from the past. Their life won't be as easy as
> yours in searching for data. Does that matter? We are talking aircraft
> here. Do we want a thriving and growing Velo community? We even have a
> new bird in the VTwin.
> In a nutshell if we stay status quo on a truly antiquated mailing list
> format we compromise the newcomers forcing them to search bundles of
> Archived Digests going back 20 years. As well those of us in the club
> now can have search difficulty vs the ease of a forum.
> The new folks wishing to join our community have to turn back the
> clock 10+ years in web technology for Archived and Bundled old threads
> pertinent to their flight safety in the building-maintaining and
> flying of their birds.
> As stated multiple times previous, if we converted to a forum,
> everyone who wanted every post to the forum emailed to them real time
> can have that.
> This change is greatly needed for the health of our community. I was
> shocked as a relative newcomer 2+ years ago the community being on a
> mailing list. I honestly didn't know anyone was using them anymore (I
> did use them for years late 90's and into the early 2000's).
>
> So in a nutshell we are not the least bit newcomer friendly, and
> compromise the new folks to our community in terms of flight safety.
>
> Straw Poll?
>
> RESPECTFULLY!
>
> Mark B. Magee
> N34XL 300HP 80HRS
>
> 'Texan by birth, Canardian by choice'
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net
> <mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net>> wrote:
>
> I agree with Kevin. I don't delete any of the reflector emails.
> I have about 8 years worth and they are very easy to search. I
> also filter all my incoming mail so all rflector mail goes into
> its own folder. I actually have about 8 filters for different
> topics. Its all about being smart with email.
>
> I don't care if the reflector is copied to a forum interface for
> those that don't like email, as long as the reflector email list
> based system is not changed. I will not switch to a forum based
> system.
>
> Scott
>
> Kevin Baker <flykb at verizon.net <mailto:flykb at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> >Hi Mark,
> >I do understand forums. It is really how folks get and use the media.
> >With the emails folks get immediate access anywhere they are and
> are able to respond to questions or requests for answers quickly.
> >Take mobile phones for example, I get emails all day and are able
> to respond without doing anything.
> >With a forum you have to login, see what new navigate thru a web
> page, ect ect
> >Not very convient and I'm sure less folks would take the time to
> keep logging in to check.
> >
> >It seems the issue you have is you don't want emails and want to
> search archives.
> >Why don't you just not delete your emails and search your own
> email archive, that is what I do and I'm sure others do as well.
> >I can export all the old emails to txt files for you to upload
> into you email prog if you want.
> >Most email programs allow you to search any field for any key word.
> >Then boom there you have a sorted list of just the emails you are
> looking for.
> >
> >No offense taken :-)
> >
> >I love getting the emails all day and see lots of folks
> responding to alot of "how do you" , "does anyone have" and then
> see someone with in minutes respond and the builder with the help
> or answers.
> >With a forum one may not get the help until late that night or
> days later when someone gets around to logging in and checking the
> website. Not very easy or convient on smartphones ect
> >
> >I think Brett posts the emails to his site, are you not able to
> login and use that?
> >
> >
> >Just my 2 c
> >
> >Kevin Baker
> >
> >.
> >
> >On May 12, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com
> <mailto:edjonesbrady at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Kevin/All,
> >>
> >> A forum would be MUCH easier to find old threads later to
> review valuable info posted up IMHO. There is a -good- reason most
> all other interest groups on the web are in forum format. The only
> downside is the necessity of a relatively active administrator.
> >> For instance: this Matco brake upgrade thread is very valuable
> to me personally (XL FG: orig Matcos). I can't really take action
> on this this weekend so all I can do is create a file folder for
> this thread on my end. OTW I have to either email search my
> folders or (please no) search a an archive. In a forum format it
> would -always- be there for everyone for future reference and
> easily found by a search.
> >> I participate on multiple forums on the web for varied topics
> and I fear a lot of very valuable data is lost for those of us who
> subscribe here: searching a digested mailing list archive in my
> mind is akin to searching microfiche vs the ease of a forum format.
> >> Kevin, are you a member of any forums? Frankly I can't
> understand anyone who is would prefer this to a format a forum.
> >> I was on a VW mailing list that went to a forum 10 years ago...
> >> No offense intended to the originators of this mailing list and
> those in their comfort zone here. It is very valuable, just very
> difficult to search for a topic covered in the past.
> >> To repeat, there are valid reasons that nearly (virtually?) all
> interest groups on the web have abandoned mailing lists and are
> forum based.
> >> We would all benefit greatly, flight safety would benefit by a
> forum format.
> >>
> >> My $.02
> >>
> >> Mark B. Magee
> >> N34XL
> >> Sent from IPhone 4
> >>
> >> Texan by birth, Canardian by choice.
> >>
> >> On May 11, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Kevin Baker <flykb at verizon.net
> <mailto:flykb at verizon.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I concur
> >>> I like the current email format.
> >>>
> >>> Kevin Baker
> >>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> On May 11, 2012, at 4:26 PM, "Scott" <scott at tnstaafl.net
> <mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I would not be happy if the list moved to a forum. Probably
> would rarely participate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Android phone.
> >>>>
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