REFLECTOR: grass strip

[Mark Magee]

You are a braver man than I! 

Mark B. Magee
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On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:12 AM, John Dibble <aminetech at bluefrog.com> wrote:

> I've made dozens of TOLs on grass strips.  The key word is grass.  If there are bare spots, stones can be kicked up and damage the prop, but for me that was just minor nicks.  There is a lot of bug spatter on the prop, wings, and canard.
> 
> John
> 
> On 3/22/2012 7:24 AM, Andrew Judge wrote:
>> 
>> I think it depends on the runway too. I personally don't do it for the reasons below, but I have a buddy with an EZ that's lived at Leeward (FD04) for over 10 years and swears he's never had a problem.
>> 
>> Andy 
>>  
>> From: Mark Magee [mailto:edjonesbrady at gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:23 PM
>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>         
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: grass strip 
>>  
>> I personally would and will never land or take-off on anything other than a hard surface. I once landed my Long EZ on hard-packed clay at an EAA fly in at the Anza Borrego desert east of San Diego. All us canard pushers out of San Diego had a briefing meeting on how to avoid damaging or worse a prop. 
>> • On landing hold the nose up off the runway and as soon as it drops kill your engine. That part worked.
>> • On take-off roll for take off with the landing brake DOWN (RG folks no protection) to shield prop from debris from nosewheel. As soon as possible lift the nosewheel off the runway and immediately retract the board. Get her off ASAP.
>> Despite our procedures a friend took a rock in the prop on take-off, lost a lot of a blade of a wooden 2 blade prop and nearly had his engine pop loose the engine mounts.
>> Canard pushers are -not- designed for grass or dirt. I can't         believe anyone hangars a Velocity out of a grass strip. If you want to go rough field, get a tractor configuration, they're ideal for that environment.
>> Just taxiing a canard-pusher on non concrete/asphalt or similar surface is hazardous to your prop. 
>> My .02: don't consider it.
>> 
>> Mark B. Magee
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>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Kevin Baker <flykb at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Barry
>>> Let us know what you find out.
>>> I'm curious as well.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>> .
>>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 20:18, velocityoner at yahoo.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Call Brent Bourgouis at 985-785-8299. His Velocity RG is based on a grass strip in Louisiana. 
>>>> Victor T
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:59 PM, "Barry Gibbons" <gibbons at as.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>   Does any body have any experience in landing on grass strip? What type of prop do you have? Would a MT be better than Catto prop for grass?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Barry
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