REFLECTOR: Fwd: Gliding Distance

Carl Hoffman hoffman3 at rcn.com
Tue Jun 19 17:04:32 CDT 2012


Oops, I got the up and down backwards.


Sent from my iPad 2.


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Carl Hoffman <hoffman3 at rcn.com>
> Date: June 19, 2012 5:59:07 PM EDT
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Gliding Distance
> 
> When I was training with Brandon over twelve years in a 173 FG VG, he had me establish glide on downwind with power off, and slowly move the prop control in and out on base. Moving the prop control in slowed the aircraft, it pitched down; pulling it out the aircraft speed & pitched up.
> 
> A retired Navy pilot-builder there recalled a dead stick landing he made at Jacksonville using arresting gear.
> 
> Brandon said VG's did make much difference in the 173, but made a big difference in the SUV.
> 
> Brooke, where are you based, I'm still at MOR.
> 
> Sent from my iPad 2.
> 
> 
> On Jun 19, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Brooke Wolf <bwolf1 at tds.net> wrote:
> 
>> You are right Steve.  Thanks.  That would bring my glide ratio to just about 9.5:1.
>> 
>> Brooke
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> From: steve korney <s_korney at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 87, Issue 104
>>> Date: June 19, 2012 1:55:12 PM EDT
>>> To: Reflector Reflector <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> Reply-To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes... 9.5 to 1...... Don't forget that the KIAS is about 12% less then your true airspeed at 6000ft... KTAS is about 95...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steve 
>>> 
>>> From: bwolf1 at tds.net
>>> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:44:33 -0400
>>> To: reflector at tvbf.org
>>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 87, Issue 104
>>> 
>>> Steve….Just to be clear, do you mean 9.5 to 1, i.e., 9500 feet forward for every 1000 ft altitude loss?  It looks like mine is nearer 8.5 to 1.  Somehow, somewhere I got the idea it would be 15 to 1!  Maybe that is with a stopped prop.  
>>> 
>>> Brooke
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: steve korney <s_korney at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Gliding Distance
>>> Date: June 19, 2012 1:13:22 PM EDT
>>> To: Reflector Reflector <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> Reply-To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 85 KIAS @ 6000ft , you have about a 9.5 glide ratio.... What are you expecting to see....?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steve 
>>> 
>>> > From: bwolf1 at tds.net
>>> > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:26:23 -0400
>>> > To: reflector at tvbf.org
>>> > Subject: REFLECTOR: Gliding Distance
>>> > 
>>> > I am planning some overwater trips in the near future and the subject of gliding distance naturally comes to mind. I have done some limited test flying with my airplane (XLRG w/Aerocomposite variable pitch prop). The results of my gliding performance are not too good. All tests were done around 6000ft with throttle at idle and wheels up. Here are the results:
>>> > 
>>> > 80 KIAS - 900fpm…….. yields a glide performance of 1.38 miles/1000 ft altitude
>>> > 85 KIAS - 1000fpm……..yeilds a glide performance of 1.41 miles/1000 ft altitude
>>> > 100 KIAS - 1250fpm …..yields a glide performance of 1.34 miles/1000 ft altitude
>>> > 
>>> > As you can see, 85 KIAS appears to be the best glide speed.
>>> > 
>>> > I know there may be a big difference in what I tested and what happens in the real world with a windmilling or stopped prop. Have any of you brave test pilots done any testing with a windmilling or stopped prop? What were the results? What kind of glide performance did others get with throttle at idle? Is there anyway to correlate throttle idle glide performance with windmilling or prop stopped performance? What is the best way to stretch a wheels up glide on a Velocity?
>>> > 
>>> > I would like to get a discussion going on this and find what others have experienced. Thanks.
>>> > 
>>> > Brooke, N108BG, XLRG-5, 145 hours
>>> > 
>>> > 
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