REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 87, Issue 104

steve korney s_korney at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 19 18:08:50 CDT 2012


John...
Your glide ratio was 5.4 on that return to base....Or less, depending on the altitude of the airport... I have to assume that you were at 2800 ft. AGL...
It doesn't make any difference what speed your gliding..It will change with weight and density altitude... Your L/D is what counts... Glide ratio is distance traveled divided by altitude lost...In any given time span...


Steve 

Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:50:49 -0600
From: scott at tnstaafl.net
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 87, Issue 104


  
    
  
  
    That sounds way to exciting John!

    

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    Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 87, Issue 104

    From: John Abraham <john at velocityaircraft.com>

    To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
    <reflector at tvbf.org>

    Date: 06/19/2012 01:46 PM

    
      
      
      
      
      
        You
            should see around 15:1 +/- for building variations with a
            zero thrust setting and gear up.  I have done a 2.5-2.75 NM
            glide from 2800 feet back to the runway with a windmilling
            propeller on an XL before.  (yes engine was out so no
            additional thrust)  best glide airspeed is 85KCAS at gross. 
            So L/D will decrease if you are lighter slightly. We cleared
            the fence by about 5’ or so.  
         
                             
            John 
         
        From:
            reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
            [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Mark
            Magee

            Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:56 PM

            To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list

            Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 87,
            Issue 104
         
        I don't have
          the manual here at work, is the XLFG a 12 to 1 glide ratio
          with a stopped prop?

          Old Long EZ glided 20 to1 on a stopped prop.

          I told myself I'd never fly the heavies... :(

          Mark Magee
        
          On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Brooke
            Wolf <bwolf1 at tds.net>
            wrote:
          
            Steve….Just to be clear, do you mean
              9.5 to 1, i.e., 9500 feet forward for every 1000 ft
              altitude loss?  It looks like mine is nearer 8.5 to 1.
               Somehow, somewhere I got the idea it would be 15 to 1!
               Maybe that is with a stopped prop.  
            
               
            
            
              Brooke
              
                
                   
                
                
                   
                
                
                   
                
                

                  

                  
                
                  From: steve
                      korney <s_korney at hotmail.com>
                
                
                  Subject: Re:
                        REFLECTOR: Gliding Distance
                
                
                  Date: June
                      19, 2012 1:13:22 PM EDT
                
                
                  To: Reflector
                      Reflector <reflector at tvbf.org>
                
                
                  Reply-To: Velocity
                      Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
                
                 
                
                  
                    

                      At 85 KIAS @ 6000ft , you have about a 9.5
                      glide ratio.... What are you expecting to see....?

                      

                      

                      Steve 
                    
                      > From: bwolf1 at tds.net

                        > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:26:23 -0400

                        > To: reflector at tvbf.org

                        > Subject: REFLECTOR: Gliding Distance

                        > 

                        > I am planning some overwater trips in the
                        near future and the subject of gliding distance
                        naturally comes to mind. I have done some
                        limited test flying with my airplane (XLRG
                        w/Aerocomposite variable pitch prop). The
                        results of my gliding performance are not too
                        good. All tests were done around 6000ft with
                        throttle at idle and wheels up. Here are the
                        results:

                        > 

                        > 80 KIAS - 900fpm…….. yields a glide
                        performance of 1.38 miles/1000 ft altitude

                        > 85 KIAS - 1000fpm……..yeilds a glide
                        performance of 1.41 miles/1000 ft altitude

                        > 100 KIAS - 1250fpm …..yields a glide
                        performance of 1.34 miles/1000 ft altitude

                        > 

                        > As you can see, 85 KIAS appears to be the
                        best glide speed.

                        > 

                        > I know there may be a big difference in
                        what I tested and what happens in the real world
                        with a windmilling or stopped prop. Have any of
                        you brave test pilots done any testing with a
                        windmilling or stopped prop? What were the
                        results? What kind of glide performance did
                        others get with throttle at idle? Is there
                        anyway to correlate throttle idle glide
                        performance with windmilling or prop stopped
                        performance? What is the best way to stretch a
                        wheels up glide on a Velocity?

                        > 

                        > I would like to get a discussion going on
                        this and find what others have experienced.
                        Thanks.

                        > 

                        > Brooke, N108BG, XLRG-5, 145 hours

                        > 

                        > 

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